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By Rhaokin 2012-05-30 03:38:33
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Oh man, even as fed Irelia Darius is a pain in the ***... He is so anti-fun.

I think it's BS that he never has a reason NOT to pull you and go all in, not like he'll ever die unless your whole team focuses him... If you do then you waste too much time in a fight and lose, but if you don't he just does his stupid damage and kills your team you lose anyway.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2012-05-30 06:21:35
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so, I discovered that ad carry teemo bot lane is stupid op. What's everyone's opinion on teemo?
 
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 10:39:54
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AD Teemo bot is meh.... he works against champs like vayne who also has a short range for an ad ranged.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-05-30 11:10:07
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Rhaokin said: »
Oh man, even as fed Irelia Darius is a pain in the ***... He is so anti-fun.

I think it's BS that he never has a reason NOT to pull you and go all in, not like he'll ever die unless your whole team focuses him... If you do then you waste too much time in a fight and lose, but if you don't he just does his stupid damage and kills your team you lose anyway.

Problems with Darius?

Answer: Shen.

Weren't you playing Shen recently?
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-05-30 11:25:48
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-05-30 11:39:38
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Bismarck.Rharmony said: »
Mafuyu Orifushi said: »

Are you subscribed to the LoL Facebook page? I think everyone should Like it. Everytime they announce a new champ, everyone spams "OP OP OP!!!!" on the new champ even though its not out yet, its hilarious. Its entertaining to say the least.
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By SSJAV 2012-05-30 11:48:12
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So... Draven's a ranged attacker? o_O?
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-05-30 11:49:16
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Definitely don't look like axes to me, then again I'm not seeing the whole picture I guess.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 11:49:38
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Mafuyu Orifushi said: »
So... Draven's a ranged attacker? o_O?
His abilities seem to say so. But I'm sure his normal attacks are all close combat.
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-05-30 11:50:46
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Mafuyu Orifushi said: »
So... Draven's a ranged attacker? o_O?
His abilities seem to say so. But I'm sure his normal attacks are all close combat.

He has 525 Autoattack range. So yeah, he's a ranged AD, flinging Axes all day~

Edit: 525 is the Same range as Graves
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 11:51:23
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Bismarck.Rharmony said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Mafuyu Orifushi said: »
So... Draven's a ranged attacker? o_O?
His abilities seem to say so. But I'm sure his normal attacks are all close combat.

He has 525 Autoattack range. So yeah, he's a ranged AD, flinging Axes all day~
Didn't even notice that. lewtf. >.>; I am now disappoint.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 11:57:39
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Yeah but he's got some HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE *** kit, that lets him spam abilities over and over.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-05-30 12:03:22
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We needed another manly ranged ad like Graves.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 12:06:19
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Asura.Ludoggy said: »
We needed another manly ranged ad like Graves.

Idk Caitlynn is pretty manly already
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 12:07:51
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Asura.Ludoggy said: »
We needed another manly ranged ad like Graves.
For some reason I found this funnier after realizing they have the same short attack range. >.>;
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-05-30 12:16:27
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Problems with Darius?

Answer: Shen.

Weren't you playing Shen recently?

thought Darius passive was a dmg based on a % of the enemy's total hp?
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 12:18:24
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Asura.Ludoggy said: »
We needed another manly ranged ad like Graves.
For some reason I found this funnier after realizing they have the same short attack range. >.>;

lol I thought that was the reason he posted it in the first place. GET WITH THE TIMES SPATH
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 12:19:31
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Ragnarok.Shadowknoll said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Problems with Darius?

Answer: Shen.

Weren't you playing Shen recently?

thought Darius passive was a dmg based on a % of the enemy's total hp?
Nope.

Most people seem to have more trouble with his refreshing ult which is...
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 12:21:12
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Ragnarok.Shadowknoll said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Problems with Darius?

Answer: Shen.

Weren't you playing Shen recently?

thought Darius passive was a dmg based on a % of the enemy's total hp?

(Innate): Darius' basic attacks and damaging abilities cause enemies to bleed for 12 / 15 / 18 / 21 / 24 / 27 / 30 / 33 / 36 (+0.4 per bonus attack damage) magic damage over 5 seconds, stacking up to 5 times.

Darius gains 5% movement speed for each bleeding enemy champion.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 12:21:46
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Ragnarok.Shadowknoll said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Problems with Darius?

Answer: Shen.

Weren't you playing Shen recently?

thought Darius passive was a dmg based on a % of the enemy's total hp?
Nope.

Most people seem to have more trouble with his refreshing ult which is...


Damn you... Guess I need to get with the times.. you beat me to it..
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 12:23:26
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Deal with it. :x

Also, after messing around in a custom game with him the max true damage you can get is somewhere around 1400. But that was stacking 5 Bloodthirsters and an IE which no man in their right mind would do in a real game. XP

Edit: Before you ask about the IE. 1k+ crits and 103% Life Steal = full health in 2 hits. It was so totally worth it. XP
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-30 12:48:01
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Deal with it. :x

Also, after messing around in a custom game with him the max true damage you can get is somewhere around 1400. But that was stacking 5 Bloodthirsters and an IE which no man in their right mind would do in a real game. XP

Yes but he still gets 900 true dmg np which... is *** scary, as a refreshable ultimate. Veigar who can do redic amounts of burst with his R, can only do that 90seconds with no cdr. Around 1 min -/+ with cdr, but the issue is, once his Q and R is down... his dmg is done for, and now has to wait as a sitting duck, or kite.

I digress... Darius can spam his R in succession. He has good amount of tankiness to him, so he can be in teamfights and his Q is an aoe of 425. Basically can spam it since he gets every 3 seconds with CDR, and rack up the innate stacks. His W just hurts, and he can spam it every 2 seconds with enough blood stacks on his target+cdr combo. He can even interrupt moves with his E, or hide in a bush as team fights happen then pull them away from the teamfights and rock them squishies.

His true dmg spam ult is just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE on so many levels. I think his ult needs a rework, Idc if they make it high dmg true ult, but then like 2 min cooldown, idgaf that's fine. It limits him, and then he will need to use his R smartly in team fights. 1 on 1 he will destroy you... sure ok. Though a lot of champs destroy one on one. Udyr, Xin, Fiora, and so on.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-05-30 12:56:57
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His q is on a low *** time anyway.
aka op
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-05-30 13:12:24
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That post in no way saying his ult was weak or not OP. I was simply stating a fun fact about his ult.

In my honest opinion, overall he's not OP. He can be shut down easily if the team focuses him as they should or find some other way to pull him out of the fight. I will however say that the cooldown refresh on his ult is extremely OP as I can personally attest to it. I do think that part of it needs a rework, and fast.

But I will also say that in order to refresh that cooldown he does have to steal the feed from his carries and any other teammates he may have that possibly need kills. While Darius is extremely moderately tanky (depending on the build) and can deal a lot of damage he cannot carry a whole team if he happens to be a *** and steal all the kills, unless the other team is derpy in general in which case it's that team's fault.
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By SSJAV 2012-05-30 13:35:20
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If you let a Darius walk right up in the middle of your team and kill your carries you deserve to lose. >__> He's really *not* that tanky and is easy as hell to zone on AP carries/tanks. But I will say early on, you're certainly punished if you do short fights with him. :<
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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-05-30 13:37:24
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So I came across a 13 pot top Morde the other day in draft.
What a stupid build.
"Herp Derp Dyrus did it so it must work!"
Why do people try anything that guy does?
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By SSJAV 2012-05-30 13:39:16
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Ramuh.Urial said: »
So I came across a 13 pot top Morde the other day in draft.
What a stupid build.
"Herp Derp Dyrus did it so it must work!"
Why do people try anything that guy does?
I just did that a while ago. Actually worked pretty well. 13 pot Sion/Morde is annoying as *** to deal with if they're not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-05-30 13:42:38
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Mafuyu Orifushi said: »
Ramuh.Urial said: »
So I came across a 13 pot top Morde the other day in draft.
What a stupid build.
"Herp Derp Dyrus did it so it must work!"
Why do people try anything that guy does?
I just did that a while ago. Actually worked pretty well. 13 pot Sion/Morde is annoying as *** to deal with if they're not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Yeah I don't think it's all that great TBH.
Then again the guy may have just been a complete tard since I was Garen and was 2nd pick. He should have realized what was going to happen.I just question why you'd waste the gold purely on pots just to stay in lane longer. Especially when you risk death on Morde because without t1 boots he's slow as hell.
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