Asura.Lolserj said: »
and out of no where a singed building AP has 1 billion health :| and as you try to kill him because he's the squishiest on the team you get thrown around and his poison kills you >.>
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So he built a catalyst? Asura.Dameshi said: » Asura.Lolserj said: » and out of no where a singed building AP has 1 billion health :| and as you try to kill him because he's the squishiest on the team you get thrown around and his poison kills you >.> and rylais. Did i mention that poison is really annoying when it slows your whole team? >.> Who is a good counter to Singed btw? I've been seeing him a lot lately.
When you play vs teams composed of 5 Tanky people, who all build tanky, they should NOT be able to push lanes, outdamage carries or be unkillable. If you build Tanky, your damage should suffer for it.
Also believe Turrets should do more damage to enemy champs, depending on how many friendly champions are under the turret. turrets should do %based damage
Asura.Dameshi said: » Who is a good counter to Singed btw? I've been seeing him a lot lately. for lane phase or mid/late game? volkom said: » turrets should do %based damage
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I've done well against singed a few times >.> dont remember who i was on, i think people who can harass him while not getting poisoned should work, so like vlad or teemo? >.>
Asura.Dameshi said: » lolserj is right. teemo and vlad are really good counters for lane phase against singed. only problem is. late game teemo will suck vs singed if he goes ap/hybrid. and kinda same with vlad cuz singed builds mr. yorick is good too i would think cuz of that range harrass. any real melee might have difficulties cuz of the poison trail. but hey. its what junglers are for Good point, need harass and survivability. Jarvan could work well in that case. Standard + massive spear of doom.
Then again, I just love the Jarman >.> does ranked
first pick doesnt ban morg and first picks vayne ...
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Singed has really low mana, so any melee champion with a shield and good sustain won't have any problem. Riven, Lee, Udyr are great picks. Otherwise Vlad/Teemo(Starting with boots) and Caitlyn do amazing top against him. Empowered Bulwark (Innate): Singed receives 0.25 health per 1 mana he possesses. Singed has really low mana-sustain early on, is probably more accurate.
Cerberus.Tikal said: » Singed has really low mana-sustain early on, is probably more accurate. If use it non stop yes. If you are smart with him no. Get a mana crystal, have mana regen yellows. Armor reds, mr blues, HP quints. He sustains just fine no issues. Also getting boots and catalyst early pretty much early game he has no mana issues. Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Singed has really low mana, so any melee champion with a shield and good sustain won't have any problem. Riven, Lee, Udyr are great picks. Otherwise Vlad/Teemo(Starting with boots) and Caitlyn do amazing top against him. Empowered Bulwark (Innate): Singed receives 0.25 health per 1 mana he possesses. Basically Teemo/caitlyn/Yorick/Lee sin all do very well against Singed. Note: I understand that mana = more HP for his passive but I think Shiroi was noting that with a weak early mana start you can zone him out very fast with proper champs without ganks from his teammates. Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » Singed has really low mana-sustain early on, is probably more accurate. If use it non stop yes. If you are smart with him no. Get a mana crystal, have mana regen yellows. Armor reds, mr blues, HP quints. He sustains just fine no issues. Also getting boots and catalyst early pretty much early game he has no mana issues. i wouldnt use mana regen yellows on singed
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Asura.Lolserj said: » Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » Singed has really low mana-sustain early on, is probably more accurate. If use it non stop yes. If you are smart with him no. Get a mana crystal, have mana regen yellows. Armor reds, mr blues, HP quints. He sustains just fine no issues. Also getting boots and catalyst early pretty much early game he has no mana issues. i wouldnt use mana regen yellows on singed But I also build him more straight tank early then switch to AP later game. M. Pen reds, armor yellow, m res blue and move quints. Start with regen pendant and a mana pot and go for philo early. Then t1 boots force, merc treads and frozen heart. Then I focus on AP. I just feel Banshees, RoA, or Frozen Heart would be better overall to start with
normally i do mana crystal -> catalyst (it helps a lot sustain wise) then build it into a RoA or Banshee's depending on what i need then i normally get a glacial shroud and then a bansees or RoA depending on what i didnt get yet Then i finish the Frozen heart and thats about when im unkillable Asura.Lolserj said: » I just feel Banshees, RoA, or Frozen Heart would be better overall to start with normally i do mana crystal -> catalyst (it helps a lot sustain wise) then build it into a RoA or Banshee's depending on what i need then i normally get a glacial shroud and then a bansees or RoA depending on what i didnt get yet Then i finish the Frozen heart and thats about when im unkillable Ramuh.Urial said: » Asura.Lolserj said: » I just feel Banshees, RoA, or Frozen Heart would be better overall to start with normally i do mana crystal -> catalyst (it helps a lot sustain wise) then build it into a RoA or Banshee's depending on what i need then i normally get a glacial shroud and then a bansees or RoA depending on what i didnt get yet Then i finish the Frozen heart and thats about when im unkillable ah, i could never duo lane on singed
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volkom said: » teemo and vlad are really good counters for lane phase against teemo.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Note: I understand that mana = more HP for his passive but I think Shiroi was noting that with a weak early mana start you can zone him out very fast with proper champs without ganks from his teammates. Exactly what I meant, thanks. You can hit his poison and do a sweep on low hp minions at 13mp*3 seconds 39 mp a pop. That's not really gonna drain his pool with leveling. He just doesn't have the hp and movement to harass against a ranged ad until like level 6. Idk I never had trouble top laning doing it that way or losing out on mana. I've had np keeping my lane harassed while doing it. Am I giving up defense? Yeah I am, but I'm getting so much more out of harassing and stopping their farm and keeping mine up.
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