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By volkom 2012-04-18 18:23:45
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Can't most fed AD champs do that?
Yes/no His W is pretty crazy and keeps him in the game. Plus I build him kinda tanky anyways so I didn't have a ***ton of dmg like most did. I have 2 ways I'm trying him out build wise.
Full AD - BT, Boots of Swiftness, IE, PD, TF, Maw of Malmortius (helps his late game Q out a lot too which I find drops off late game if you build him the next set)
Tankish/Sustain - TF, wiggles, boots of swiftness, legion, SV, PD
They both work well, (I prefer option 2 more often just cause glass cannon AD doesn't work well unless you got the right team) 2 will I say also help in general sense keep you in team fights as a beneficial matter. I have yet to try a AP tankish (think amumu kinda). I think it would be fun, but Idk how beneficial it would be. I would also need to build complete different runes to compensate for that AP playing style on him.
fiora/fiddlesticks/udyr/olaf/tryn/shyvana/warwick/ryze and a lot of other champs can solo baron in full/nearful build >.>
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 18:23:54
Seriously? Fiddles can Lv2 Baron with Blue?
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-04-18 18:27:10
VARUS as he shows under champs in your profile!
He SOUNDS just as OP as Hecarim!
I keep clicking "Unlock Champion" hoping it'll bug out and buy him free xD
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-18 18:41:13
Time for more ranked YEAH
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-18 19:23:19
Time for more ranked YEAH
So more AP/lifesteal - Boots of Swiftness, Wriggles/bloodthirster, Hextech gunblade, Frozen Heart, Trinity Force, Spirits Visage. ... it's OP...
He plays so much like skarner shyvana mix.. maybe that's why I like him.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 19:48:17
Ok, so... Spellvamp. Does that steal HP or MP?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-04-18 19:49:20
hps
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 19:49:59
Nothing steals MP?
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-04-18 19:50:58
Ok, so... Spellvamp. Does that steal HP or MP?
Spellvamp returns HP when using damage abilities that scale off of Ability Power.
And you don't build Manamune on Blitzcrank, knock that ***off :P
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-04-18 19:54:00
certain champs like swain/annie/karthus have mp return on kill. no items as far as i know, and nothing that scales like lifesteal or spellvamp does.
its not really a bad thing, it encourages smart mana use early game, and isn't really necessary late game.
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-04-18 22:11:27
There used to be a few champions/items that drained mana from enemy champions. Got removed along with GP's deny cause people bitched about it. Also, solo queue isn't as bad as I remember, only had one~ down syndrome morgana today who asked why I have I ganked mid yet after I got invaded by shaco and killed him twice. >.>
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-18 22:56:44
Carry Shen... ftw.... oh man..
By volkom 2012-04-19 00:27:17
lux carry
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-04-19 00:34:37
Ok, so... Spellvamp. Does that steal HP or MP?
Spellvamp returns HP when using damage abilities that scale off of Ability Power.
And you don't build Manamune on Blitzcrank, knock that ***off :P nothing wrong with manamune on blitz.
treads
manamune
triforce
banshees
frozen heart
usually like shurelias here.
more mana more passive.
By Rhaokin 2012-04-19 03:35:48
It seems Kat might actually be my best champ in ranked. I find it much easier to contribute with her than other champs, and just won 2 in a row with her after a long losing streak with 2W/15L. How many more days before I come above 1000 ELO again?
Noted; no one on their team seemed to do anything horribly wrong (except GP pushing hard @ top against a Kat...) but they were saying "REPORT X PERSON REPORT Y PERSON"... That always happens on my team when we lose as well. This game really is thankless, people focus on everything you do wrong and don't acknowledge anything you do right.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 03:46:52
It seems Kat might actually be my best champ in ranked, just won 2 in a row with her after a long losing streak with 2W/15L. How many more days before I come above 1000 ELO again? lol
Noted; no one on their team seemed to do anything horribly wrong (except GP pushing hard @ top against a Kat...) but they were saying "REPORT X PERSON REPORT Y PERSON"... That always happens on my team when we lose as well. This game really is thankless, people focus on everything you do wrong and don't acknowledge anything you do right.
Kayle fed, skarner fed, Karthas fed (meh not really a big deal about karthas.. if he's a zombie karthas... as most are..)
Also kat top? You should prolly get more champs you are better with, and more runes and such cause you won't be able to play just kat. Jungling at lower elo really doesn't matter.. lol it only effects higher lvl play, but jungling is a huge benefit to learn regardless. It will help you predict their jungler's movements as well. You should have wards regardless, but predicting/knowing a junglers path is one of the few things that helps your playing ability over-all. It's great for knowing when to counter gank, counter them in their jungle and so forth especially early early game.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-04-19 03:57:29
Noted; no one on their team seemed to do anything horribly wrong (except GP pushing hard @ top against a Kat...) but they were saying "REPORT X PERSON REPORT Y PERSON"... That always happens on my team when we lose as well. This game really is thankless, people focus on everything you do wrong and don't acknowledge anything you do right.
People always need someone to blame. Blame the jungler for not ganking every lane at the same time, blame the support for not curing you or tanking for you(cause you know, we have provoke in this game and its clearly not smarter to focus the squishy but to focus the tank, yep)blame top for not holding lane, even when they never get a gank for their team but the enemy team ganks if not babysits them up top.
I hate winning with a whining team, I would rather lose with a team that communicated and had fun and lost to a better team comp although winning with the later team wouldnt be bad either o.o
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-04-19 03:59:01
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Jungling at lower elo really doesn't matter.. lol it only effects higher lvl play, but jungling is a huge benefit to learn regardless. I don't play ranked but, a good jungler kinda tilts the game in their teams favor>.> no matter how you look at it lol
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 04:06:00
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Jungling at lower elo really doesn't matter.. lol it only effects higher lvl play, but jungling is a huge benefit to learn regardless. I don't play ranked but, a good jungler kinda tilts the game in their teams favor>.> no matter how you look at it lol
You seem to forget..... most people don't even know how to properly act when a jungler is coming to gank... So many times I've told them coming to gank don't do anything till I signal... they *** start initiating as I just hit the bush or start coming around from behind them when I'm mid. (forget the bad grammar atm.. I'm tired and not caring to fix run-on sentences and the like.) Most people don't truly get how to work with a jungler. ***most people can't even last hit properly. The only time you can push a lane is when you are bot lane and denying them hard farm, as long as it's warded properly. Though killing some one denies them so much harder, and feeds you better as the bot lane. Plus you can push a lane then to do dmg to their turret.
~TLDR... low low elo matches you don't even need to bother with the Meta.. some times it's better to just play what you can to carry yourself out or what ev, but you better play it well. Plus a good jungler can't even do anything with people who don't know how to do anything but push.
By Rhaokin 2012-04-19 04:16:43
Well it happens that Katarina is the only champ I seem able to carry hard enough to win games with. I usually play her mid, but was asked to go top this game. Of course I do NOT only play with her. It's obvious a Blitzcrank/Cho'Gath/Amumu/Alistar or various other heavy CC champs would make the game hell for me, in which case I'll play Ahri or Lux.
Out of curiosity, what distinguishes the difference between "feeding" and "being outplayed"?
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-04-19 04:22:24
I consider it feeding when you don't learn your lesson. Like being continually ganked by the enemy jungler and you still push very hard without ward coverage.
If you want a noob stomper in lower ELO, try Annie.
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-04-19 04:24:29
Yeah, with randumbs pinging is needed to be clear because you can't read minds. Like I said, I don't play ranked so I just do normals, but I was playing jungle WW all night and only a few games were hopeless. (Because, let's be honest. They were BR. Not even a good jungle can help that.) I wouldn't say them starting before you're fully moved in is a bad thing, depending on your position. So many times, people waited until I came to start fighting, and then we ended up losing the kills because they wanted to get me in a good position. (Which gives them time to juke/dodge ***.) Difference between outplayed and feeding (imo, anyway.) is outplayed you're actually doing ***. Feeding is you're 0/6 and you have jack ***done, and your other lanes are suffering for it.
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-04-19 07:21:35
Quote: but I was playing jungle WW all night and only a few games were hopeless
ww junglers make me sad, he sucks at ganking until 6, and clears way too slow :\. if i want a supression bot, ill take a skarner.
@rhaokin
if you have a severely negative KDR before 15 mins, youre feeding.
if you dont learn your lesson the first time you die, youre feeding.
if youre purposely dying, youre feeding.
Quote: If you want a noob stomper in lower ELO, try Annie. or jax, lot more forgiving of a pubstomper, since his skill cap is way lower than annies.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-04-19 07:46:08
I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!
Next to get:
Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 08:18:04
I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!
Next to get:
Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)
you have to pay big bucks to be immune to ahri's charm
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-04-19 08:38:04
I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)  orly
In other news, why can I not buy RP atm? I have plenty of money, but I just keep getting errors. Something wrong with the shop?
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-04-19 08:39:38
I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)
I cant play Alistar for ***...I have his free one, got him and Tristania free thru Facebook/YouTube.
Tried Taric last time he was in the rotation and I was pretty good with him, he can be built a few diff ways it seems and still be decent.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 08:47:57
I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)
I do fine on taric, thanks though
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