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 Fenrir.Eneas
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-03-27 12:32:26
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Ok thanks all for the input i will try these buiilds for Xin Zhao and then report back XD
Btw whats the good jungle strategy? go blu only and then go help lane?
If i do to clear all jungle i fall behind most of the times (level wise) cuz it takes too long.
By volkom 2012-03-27 12:36:23
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Fenrir.Eneas said: »
Ok thanks all for the input i will try these buiilds for Xin Zhao and then report back XD
Btw whats the good jungle strategy? go blu only and then go help lane?
If i do to clear all jungle i fall behind most of the times (level wise) cuz it takes too long.
depends on champ >.>

if you can do it, on xin, go for wraiths -> red and punk bottom/mid
others like a leash on blue ->wolves->wraiths>golumns>red>gank
some do it as golumns>wraiths>wolves>red>blue>gank top/mid
and some just like to counter jungle and put boxes in the bush that goes to red and have ignite/exhaust ready
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-03-27 13:13:11
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xin is a fast jungle at least to me he is. You can do two types of paths that work well. first is starting blue then wolfs wraiths red then gank/golems. second is red then gank, for an early butt humping. I'd get a frozen mallet on him regardless if you go dps or tanky dps build. It lets you stay on people and makes you very scary.
 
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By volkom 2012-03-27 15:41:24
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I hate the people who help leash you mobs in the jungle then steal half the exp >:[
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-03-27 15:43:50
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*** don't know about my Malphite jungle.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 21:53:22
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<3 Yorick

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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-03-27 22:15:34
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Carry harder yo.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2012-03-28 11:59:47
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So, I am sure most people on these forums know this, but my good friend in real life had no idea and he plays a lot so I figured I would throw this out there:

wriggles lantern+li sin=epic

A few characters can also make it great but nobody works as epically for it as li. His shield will bring him to the ward so its great for getting over walls or getting close enough to then bring yourself to one of their minions.

It also works well with jax and technically it works for kat but its more of an AD item.

Food for thought.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-03-28 12:02:03
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Wriggles is (or was until the nerf and I assume still is) a pretty key item on most ADs except maybe some ranged carries. Definitely for junglers.
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-03-28 12:18:45
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love your orianna pony ^^
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-03-28 12:21:50
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Fenrir.Eneas said: »
love your orianna pony ^^

This, I was confused at first, then amazed.

I think her new skin changed how her ult looks as well. At least it seemed so from the video I watched.
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By Lakshmi.Phattank 2012-03-28 15:58:01
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I think I have found a new love with Kassadin.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-03-28 16:17:15
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Fenrir.Eneas said: »
love your orianna pony ^^

This, I was confused at first, then amazed.

I think her new skin changed how her ult looks as well. At least it seemed so from the video I watched.

Shes the best <3 Her new skin is awesome but if it changed her ult animation its pretty subtle. I haven't really noticed.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-28 17:42:04
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Lakshmi.Phattank said: »


I think I have found a new love with Kassadin.

too bad hes always banned -_-
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-28 17:42:36
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Sylph.Nephriel said: »
Wriggles is (or was until the nerf and I assume still is) a pretty key item on most ADs except maybe some ranged carries. Definitely for junglers.

i normally only get it on junglers
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-28 17:45:39
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I prefer Bloodthirster to Wriggles as an AD.
By volkom 2012-03-28 17:46:46
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I prefer Bloodthirster to Wriggles as an AD.
solo top or junglers usually get wriggles~

if the game lasts long enough they some times ditch it for bloodthirster ;o
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-28 17:48:23
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I'll just grab two Vampire Scepters if I need life steal bad enough, myself. Sell one for room if I'm not going to make a second Bloodthirster.
By volkom 2012-03-28 17:48:53
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whats your summoner name :D i'll add you
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-28 17:49:33
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volkom said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I prefer Bloodthirster to Wriggles as an AD.
solo top or junglers usually get wriggles~

if the game lasts long enough they some times ditch it for bloodthirster ;o

if im solo top and need armor I'll normally get an omen
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By Lakshmi.Phattank 2012-03-28 17:49:45
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
too bad hes always banned -_-

I can see why << lol
By volkom 2012-03-28 17:51:36
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I prefer Bloodthirster to Wriggles as an AD.
solo top or junglers usually get wriggles~

if the game lasts long enough they some times ditch it for bloodthirster ;o

if im solo top and need armor I'll normally get an omen
oh yeah, also depends on the champ thats up there too~
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-28 17:51:47
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Solrokr
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-28 18:00:26
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volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I prefer Bloodthirster to Wriggles as an AD.
solo top or junglers usually get wriggles~

if the game lasts long enough they some times ditch it for bloodthirster ;o

if im solo top and need armor I'll normally get an omen
oh yeah, also depends on the champ thats up there too~

well yeah, i dont build omen on everyone... though i do build it a lot
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-28 18:23:38
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2012-03-28 20:15:23
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Wriggles is better than bloodthirster like 4/5 times.

Bloodthirster needs stacks and yes, they made it easier now but the life steal is less broken. Wriggles also gives you armor, which makes you a lot more tanky and the dmg on it also helps you win skirmishes. Then to top it off, how many times have you missed a lastie by like 5 hp? Wriggles solves that very often. It's also way cheaper.

Blood thirster is good if you're a ranged AD who is just monstering up the lasties or your entire lane and you are sure you can keep it up. It gives you much less survive-ability than a lantern, especially now. The armor and life steal combine to keep you alive longer than the lifesteal from the sword.

Also, wards win games :P It really sucks when you find yourself with 0 room to buy wards. this item gives you free wards!
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-03-28 20:33:21
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Sylph.Shinobu said: »
Wriggles is better than bloodthirster like 4/5 times.

Bloodthirster needs stacks and yes, they made it easier now but the life steal is less broken. Wriggles also gives you armor, which makes you a lot more tanky and the dmg on it also helps you win skirmishes. Then to top it off, how many times have you missed a lastie by like 5 hp? Wriggles solves that very often. It's also way cheaper.

Blood thirster is good if you're a ranged AD who is just monstering up the lasties or your entire lane and you are sure you can keep it up. It gives you much less survive-ability than a lantern, especially now. The armor and life steal combine to keep you alive longer than the lifesteal from the sword.

Also, wards win games :P It really sucks when you find yourself with 0 room to buy wards. this item gives you free wards!

depends on the champ and role

ideally you should be building ie first for ranged ad, but if you need early sustain you can swap in a bt. wriggles gives too little ad to warrant it for a straight carry.

i feel the change to bt was more of a buff than nerf, lifesteal still scales scales off of everything, arpen, attack speed, ad, etc so you can still get obscenely high and fast heals with little actual lifesteal %. half stacks lost benefits you much more unless you never die.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-28 20:39:32
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Sylph.Shinobu said: »
Wriggles is better than bloodthirster like 4/5 times.

Bloodthirster needs stacks and yes, they made it easier now but the life steal is less broken. Wriggles also gives you armor, which makes you a lot more tanky and the dmg on it also helps you win skirmishes. Then to top it off, how many times have you missed a lastie by like 5 hp? Wriggles solves that very often. It's also way cheaper.

Blood thirster is good if you're a ranged AD who is just monstering up the lasties or your entire lane and you are sure you can keep it up. It gives you much less survive-ability than a lantern, especially now. The armor and life steal combine to keep you alive longer than the lifesteal from the sword.

Also, wards win games :P It really sucks when you find yourself with 0 room to buy wards. this item gives you free wards!

i would say wriggles > bt maybe 2/5 times not 4/5
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