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FFXI and FFXIV Computer Build Help.
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2191
By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-07-26 15:33:26
Fenrir.Gimmeurselables said: Bahamut.Nixak said: =Intel does kick AMD's *** up and down the street in everything but the price.
Maybe I should just buy a PS3. >_> Maybe you should learn more about computers before you blabber some ***like that, and then just buy a PS3 for being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Well he is right about intel.
Lakshmi.Ricco
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 264
By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-07-26 15:46:04
I'm not sure why everyone is thinking they need to buy a new 1k+ system to play this game really.... here are my pc specs and I can play the beta just fine.
Keep in mind my laptop is 3 years old :P
Windows Vista Home Prem SP 2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 Ghz
GPU: Nvidia 8600m GT
memory: 2 GB ram
HDD: 180GB
I scored roughly 800 on the benchmark test and I have had no problems yet with playing the beta.
Bismarck.Nexdeus
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 471
By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-07-26 16:29:47
One thing that I do not see being recommended is 2 separate HD's. 1 for the OS and installed software, and 1 for storage.
This one simple step can save you lots of future headaches, and much quicker defrags.
A great configuration would be a primary HD being a SSD or a WD raptor for a main drive, then a huge clunker for a secondary data drive, where all your music, vids, pics, porn, will be kept separately.
Also, if you intend on running any of these games on high resolutions, I would say try and go for a SLI or crossfire configuration. SLI/Xfire work best when they enter the higher resolutions, since they handle either every other frame, or the frame is split in half for each GPU.
Anyways, have fun building your system! :D
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-26 16:31:52
Siren.Eagleeyes said: Fenrir.Gimmeurselables said: Bahamut.Nixak said: =Intel does kick AMD's *** up and down the street in everything but the price.
Maybe I should just buy a PS3. >_> Maybe you should learn more about computers before you blabber some ***like that, and then just buy a PS3 for being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Well he is right about intel.
Agreed. AMD tends to be what you pay for.
Caitsith.Neonracer
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2748
By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-07-26 16:36:18
Shiva.Flionheart said: Well I'm currently @ 4890 with this build, I've been tempted to jump in the Nvidia boat a few times recently because ATI are slow as hell to release fixes.
Probably just going to chuck another 4890 in and run Crossfire though.
Sorry to quote ya Flion, but a tech mentioned that Nvidia is on the way out, so I was told, but don't quote me.. I have never had any issues with ATI personally..
I stayed within Budget, just get yourself a 1/2 decent MB, you won't need a supra-fast ultra DVD writer/rom a nice one with good performance should do the trick, and buy a 1 or 2 gig vid card + 2-3 gig cpu ram. Also 300 + gig HD is nice to have too. IDK how big FFXIIV is gonna be...so =/
Leviathan.Snomm
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 210
By Leviathan.Snomm 2010-07-26 22:31:55
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: FFXI = Buy a computer or laptop.
FFXIV = Build a computer.
Literally, right after reading that post I laughed since it is pretty much true.
Lakshmi.Ricco said: I'm not sure why everyone is thinking they need to buy a new 1k+ system to play this game really.... here are my pc specs and I can play the beta just fine.
Keep in mind my laptop is 3 years old :P
Windows Vista Home Prem SP 2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 Ghz
GPU: Nvidia 8600m GT
memory: 2 GB ram
HDD: 180GB
I scored roughly 800 on the benchmark test and I have had no problems yet with playing the beta.
My question is, what settings are you playing the beta on?
My second question is, was 800 on high or low settings for the benchmark?
I'm also going to make the assumption that you haven't been in combat with tons of people in the same area as you with special effects flying out left and right since the beta has limited people in it.
Cerberus.Evilpaul
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 91
By Cerberus.Evilpaul 2010-07-28 00:30:24
Everything I've heard about the beta is it's 55 people camping all over each other to claim+kill 8 EP-DC mobs. Basically, it's Cape Terrigan HD.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-28 01:15:36
Cerberus.Evilpaul said: Everything I've heard about the beta is it's 55 people camping all over each other to claim+kill 8 EP-DC mobs. Basically, it's Cape Terrigan HD.
Yah, with the character resets and the rest of the world locked out, all there is to do is kill enemies over and over, and this is why the call it a Test. You're not playing the game itself, just testing isolated (to the best of their ability with all the newfag lol i iz a testur) mechanics.
Progression Speed, and the balance issues that are created with such a flexible system as the Armory seem almost insurmountable. It's nothing short of a miracle if FFXIV actually makes that Sept. 22nd launch day (CE) and is a playable game, lol.
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 28
By Shiva.Matsuro 2010-07-28 08:20:21
All MMOs released usually contain numerous amounts of bugs and such, after playing the beta, it seems that XIV won't be any different. I want to play XIV soon as possible, but to be honest, I would rather have it delayed a month or two to make it really polished and smooth.
Bismarck.Veruna
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
By Bismarck.Veruna 2010-07-28 08:35:35
Speaking of building computers for FFXIV and future gaming. I was just throwing one together myself, was wondering if anyone had any input on the following specs;
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1CKN35
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
Motherboard: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58A-GD65 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, IEEE1394a, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI [+24]
Memory: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1800MHz Triple Channel Memory Module [+27] (Kingston Hyper-X [+27])
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+183] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+250] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Multiple Video Card Settings: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor
Power Supply Upgrade: 1,000 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold Power Supply (80+ Gold) [+189]
Hard Drive: 640GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-1] (Single Hard Drive)
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2191
By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-07-28 15:11:06
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+183] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+250] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Multiple Video Card Settings: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor [qoute]
Don't waste your time with the gtx 465. Buy 2 GTX 460 1GB instead. Lower power draw and heat, and just as fast and some cases faster than the 465.
Bismarck.Nexdeus
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 471
By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-07-28 15:28:12
Like my post above, I think you should use 2 HD's instead of just one. One for OS and installed software, the other for data.
Raptor or SSD for a primary, and a huge drive for a secondary drive.
Bismarck.Veruna
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
By Bismarck.Veruna 2010-07-29 01:39:38
Made a couple tweaks and ended up with this. Decided on am ATI instead of nVidia and grabbed a little SSD.
CD: LG WH10-LS30K 10X Internal Super Multi Blu-Ray Rewriter (Black Color)
CASE: Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window & Temperature Display (Black Color with Blue Ring & Blue LED
CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
HDD: 64 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
HDD2: 750GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58A-GD65 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, IEEE1394a, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI
MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
MULTIVIEW: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 Professional (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 900 Watts - CoolerMaster Ultimate Circuit PSU UCP - Quad SLI Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card
WNC: Zonet ZEW1642 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter Network Card
Bismarck.Nexdeus
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 471
By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-07-29 01:53:04
I would go with a full tower case, so much more room to work with! :)
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-29 02:10:25
Bismarck.Nexdeus said: I would go with a full tower case, so much more room to work with! :)
Listen to this, or face agony and pain for the next three hardware generations.
Leviathan.Snomm
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 210
By Leviathan.Snomm 2010-07-29 17:37:05
Bismarck.Nexdeus said: I would go with a full tower case, so much more room to work with! :)
QFT
Get a full case or the GPU might not fit well...plus the issue with tons of wires all over the place in such a confined area.
Fenrir.Tool
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-29 17:38:27
I haven't had a chance to run the benchmark, but from the sounds of things it is more intensive on the CPU than it is on the GPU yes?
Leviathan.Snomm
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 210
By Leviathan.Snomm 2010-07-30 21:23:16
I have found that for some reason there is more focus on the CPU in the low settings and more focus on the GPU in the high settings, but I don't do extensive tests so just my findings. It is probably just because the GPU capacity is easily maxed out on a high-end GPU with decent head-room so the CPU makes a huge difference. On the other hand, on the high settings it is harder to max out the GPU so no matter how good your CPU is, you are going to get a crappy score if the GPU cannot handle the graphics.
Just my two cents.
Okay, so I am putting together a computer that will be for gaming only. I want to get back to playing FFXI (no one ever quits) and also be able to play FFXIV once it comes out. Anyone have any suggestions of what I should be getting? This is a list of the parts that I have picked out but I want to know what others think too.
G452-1028 ::Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H Motherboard - Socket AM3, AMD 880G, MicroATX, USB, HDMI, DVI, PCIe, RAID(3.1 lbs)
A79-1965 ::AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 CPU HDZ965FBGMBOX - 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan(1.15 lbs)
T13-1106 ::Coolmax CUG-950B 950-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, PCI-E Ready, Modular(6.6 lbs)
ULT40135 A ::Ultra Performance 120mm Case Fan Bundle - Buy One Get One Free(1.96 lbs)
TSD-800AARS ::Western Digital WD8000AARS Caviar Green Hard Drive - 800GB, 3.5", SATA-3G(1 lbs)
P33-7114 ::Patriot PGV34G1333ELK Sector 5 4GB PC10666 RAM - DDR3, 1333MHz, 2x2048MB, 9-9-9-27(0.2 lbs)
P56-9824 ::PNY VCG98GTEE1XPB GeForce 9800 GT EE 1024MB Graphics Card - 1024MB, GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, Stereo, Dual VGA Support(1.3 lbs)
L12-1312 OEM ::Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)(1.85 lbs)
ULT40493 ::Ultra ChillTec Silver CPU Cooler - LGA 775/1366, AM2/AM2+/AM3(3.46 lbs)
C44-3400 ::Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE(2.45 lbs)
A406-1115 ::NZXT Zero 2 Craft Series Full Tower Case - Steel Chassis, Quad 120mm Fans, Dual 120mm Exhaust, Top Mounted USB, Audio, eSATA(30 lbs)
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