Are You Rolling Blind? ;D

Why not just put it in /echo? Just seems like more info than you'd ever really need, other than the lucky/unlucky numbers most of the time.

I like the idea, but why do you need to know the specific details of what # gives exactly how much bonus? I have Evoker's Roll #s committed to memory, but other than that does the knowing any of that information assist you at all? I just echo my lucky/unlucky numbers.

I don't mean to hate though, I appreciate the effort and it's good to have all that information in one central place. Thanks!

Mkay... icwhatudidthar but I have all the rolls memorized from playing the job as my primary since the ToAU release lol. It's also pretty damn simple even as a casual COR to understand the rules since they all follow similar patterns. The higher the roll the better, the only exceptions are lucky/unlucky (and that shouldn't be too complicated to remember either lol).

As far as the "it's nice to know" factor, I usually announce it when it comes to SAM roll; simpler than expecting each DD hit by it to scroll up and decipher your macro if they're not a COR and then get killed by something while trying to respect their TP set.

This definitely seems like a good tool for beginners to learn the finer points of each roll though; I had similar echo's in my first macros all those years ago, but I only counted included the lucky number and 7-11 for each roll.

I need this .__.; I always have wiki on another window and when I think "Ohshi- should I roll again or stay on this number. . ." I alt-tab! D:

If you go through the job with a statistical approach, it may be statistically at your advantage to stay with a certain number than risk, for example, a +1% increase.

It's a good idea, but as you stated, it's just something that's nice to know and you get accustomed to it whist playing the job.

#1: I'm very mathematically inclined and run numbers and make lists in my sleep [greek letters and obscure decimals haunt my dreams] and COR rolls are very very simple...

SAM roll for example...

01- 8
03- 10
04- 12
05- 14
07- 16
08- 20
09- 22
10- 24

06- 4
02- 32
11- 40

*SAM/Tricorne bonus of 10

Starting at 1 and working your way up to 10 excluding lucky/unlucky you see a very simple pattern with only one deviating variable.

I've actually graphed rolls for fun while bored in calc class. Anyway, even without a calc approach you can see that excluding critical numbers it's a very basic progression increasing by 2 each time and the only part that deviates is the jump from 7 to 8. Beyond that I have the Lucky/Jackpot for each roll memorized and I have the same party bonus for each roll memorized (+10 on SAM roll).

I do in fact have each roll memorized because I memorize the patterns and have a mental picture of the graph for this roll engraved into my memory archives of useless triva right next to the complete pokedex for the original 151 pokemon. The only ones I might mix up are the unlucky results because they're typically skewed outliers and there's no reason to keep or shoot for a unlucky anyway so in my graph I have them as "undefined".

#2 The ONLY roll where doubling up may be superfluous is SAM roll but you never know what everyone else in the party needs. Granted, I'll stay at 7 or so because it's more than enough to give me a 4-hit even without the bonus and should be enough for the rest of the DD; I confirm this before deciding 7 will suffice, it typically does.

#3 My main criticism is that this macro is extremely tedious and excessive and I don't personally see the use for something so easy to remember... I find it easy to remember anyway; like I said I have a mathematically inclined mind and CAN'T stop thinking about patterns...

#4 ... sudoku is ruining my life; send help.

... Is that Dr. Who I hear? GATTA GO!

Holy ***! I finally found you Daniel Tammet!!

Oh wait, you aren't from the UK. . .
I believe this suits that quote better. . .

I love the idea of having the numbers quickly available because I like to look them up but I can hardly read it quickly here enough to make sense of it- nevermind in game with everything else going on.

All rolls follow the same basic pattern- lucky best, under lucky is bad, over lucky is better until 11 which is better than lucky.. so I don't see why I need to know the specific numbers.

Example: Say if I roll a 3 on Chaos. Obviously double-up. Not 4 after double up? Must be 5-9. Just by playing COR I know the higher you get after the lucky the better except for the unlucky. So knowing that 7 is 16% and 9 is 17% etc really doesn't matter at all.

No one has ever asked me what my roll was actually giving. I've looked it up just for fun and told them if I get lucky 11 with job in pt or w/e- but otherwise I don't think peeps are too interested.

This

And that matters why? It doesn't.

For Hunter's, 9 is better than 5,6,7 and worse than 10, 11 (4 being lucky and 8 being unlucky) so w/e pattern is breaks doesn't matter.

It is all statistical. Risking a bust and then "FUUUUUUUUU"ing is why it matters.

Mkay... one of three things happen now...

A: I say 27 without looking
B: I say 27 but I cheated
C: I say something other than 27

If I answer correctly I'm on my honor, just the same as I was when I asserted I had the useful rolls memorized. You already doubt me... so you're testing my honor... which you already doubt?

So... this could only logically be a trap to see if I'm not only so stupid that I would lie and claim to know more about the job I label as my primary but that I would answer without looking and get the incorrect answer...

So... you only trust my honor if I guess incorrectly? So... you only believe me if I'm wrong?

Well, I'd hate to NOT have your respect and be thought of as a liar... so...

Hunter's Roll on a result of 9 without the bonus is potato!

Yea, I doubt he does but if he does or not it doesn't matter was my point.

Anyway- getting a little in over my head on this topic so gonna leave it at that. Thing about COR is everyone rolls their own way- some take chance and some don't. Knowing the patterns or specific numbers do not matter at all as long as you know how the rolls work.

I took the data for my graphs from wiki; if you find fault with their data please provide your own thorough testings and correct this epic faux pas that every other COR in the world has made.

:P

Also: It's not twisting the argument, it's valid semantics. You asked me a question that served no purpose.

This is the internet, anything you say with claims such as that is usually aimed to show your "e-peen". Honestly, no one on the internet cares if you claim yourself to have "Savant Syndrome". There are no factual tests behind it which,by the laws of nature, discredits it.

I need a syndrome to memorize something simple? Damn I guess I must have hallucinated all those years in drama club... Can you help me carve this monologue from 'A Winter's Tale' out of my brain? A good chunk of it is still in there and I could use the space.

Yea, savant syndrome entails seeing "Greek letters and obscure decimals" that haunt you in your dreams.

Sounds like someone learned how to use a computer. . .

/thread

l2argue.

My answer specifically said "without" at the bottom; obviously I misread your request. And you clearly misread my answer. Way to count your chocobo before they hatch :P!

(If you were wondering, answering a different question doesn't make you wrong, it means I DIDN'T ANSWER your question :P)

To answer your question, with the bonus the answer is potato + 15.