Martial Gun Still Best At 80?

So any guns come out to replace martial gun for WS yet? Assuming TP with Joy or Kris and WS with Gun.

The new Abyssea gun has ridiculously high base DMG so depending on what Magian augments it comes with that might outperform it.

Armageddon
DMG:58 Delay:582
Lv.80 RNG/COR

Magian yo

dang at all the vnm's gotta kill for this @.@

To be honest I'm currently on the last VNM stage, Tammuz, and it hasn't been overly difficult up until this point. A small group of 4-6 people can handle Yacumama, with a well equipped PLD. Feuerunke seemed quite intimidating; however, there are a few tricks to get him taken care of. Killed Tammuz for the first time today with a party of 6, 2 BLM, RDM, PLD, DNC, COR. I would highly recommend having an evasion tank of some sort for him, as he hits like a truck.

Biggest fear, by far, is how the bloody hell these 50x Carabosse Gems.

Frankly if you use pinning techniques you could probably solo all the way up to carabosse.

Which is buyable can drop 2 and easy to spawn/kill normally.

Probably be better DD using a gun to tp with. Certainly not feed stupid amounts of tp. And 2-3 is sex with 90 dmg bullets

I think I'll keep my martial for awhile longer >_< Bet I really need to replace it at 90 D:

Tons better then martial for quickdraw, and will do more damage then martial if you have the acc without sacrificing too much.

Though a tad harder to get think Armeggedon would still win for QD

yea it would, thats why i ninja edited martial in >.>

DMG: 48 Detonator+10% is the gun I use. For some reason I can't remember what it's called right now though... Meh. Anyways, I can pull off some pretty decent Detonators with that gun, plus it ups the damage of Slug Shot by quite a bit (if you can make up for the TP bonus with Racc gear)... I currently use it for Quick Draw too, and being a Tarutaru I can get 400+ Quick Draws with my half-finished QD set.

Belive I saw somewhere that Martial still puts out better Detonator numbers D:

Meh, well even if it might occasionally... I have higher Slug damage and QD damage :3

What does being Taru have to do with QD damage?

TARU HAVE NATIVE MAB+ RACIAL THINGY! (I wish)

Poop haha. I meant acc not damage. My bad. I am exhausted. lol

I go for a really aggressive str build for sidewinder to cap Fstr2 (ohai alky's) so i still need that extra r.acc from martial gun. I tp with joy/kris so all im worried about is how hard and accurate my slugs hit. Maybe ill change after another update or 2, but for now, i cant lose that acc. I'd have to rework my whole slug build.

Pretty much this, While I should probably get a different gun some point after the level cap, I just can't give up that precious r.acc on slug shot, and the damage boost to detonator is really nice. The fact that I'm elvaan doesn't help my case with my r.acc D;