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Mjollnir i119 III and its refresh
Asura.Osaia
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By Asura.Osaia 2019-08-19 17:50:57
Relics are relatively cheap to make now (at least until you get to the umbral marrow and rocks). I want to know if Mjollnir at iLVL 119 III with AG's refresh triggered by Aftermath, or just a latent? Refresh+5 is a nice amount for a idle piece, and Mj has some good DD stats on it also. The wiki is kinda unclear, since it lists the refresh right under aftermath.
Asura.Truece
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By Asura.Truece 2019-08-19 17:59:21
The Accuracy+20, Mag. Acc.+20, and Refresh+5 are only active when you have aftermath effect on.
Asura.Osaia
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By Asura.Osaia 2019-08-19 18:03:47
Thanks. Exactly what I needed to know before I started making one.
By Jetackuu 2019-08-19 19:40:27
Wish that ***were idle... Would give me an excuse to use mine more.
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By Galkapryme 2020-04-24 18:06:07
I decided I'm going to go ahead and build a Mjollnir for the Refresh +5. Nice idle club. And I don't know about others, but I'm generally either casting or idling on WHM...never engaged. That would be total Auto-Refresh +11 from equipment for me.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2020-04-24 18:08:13
Probably better things to precast/midcast in tbh. But if you're rich enough to make it simply for the idle, go ahead.
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By Shiva.Berzerk 2020-04-24 18:08:13
I decided I'm going to go ahead and build a Mjollnir for the Refresh +5. Nice idle club. And I don't know about others, but I'm generally either casting or idling on WHM...never engaged.
I think you misread the whole thread, you only get the Refresh +5 if you have aftermath up, so you'd have to engage and use Mjollnir ws frequently to maintain aftermath and then not swap weapons because that will wipe aftermath and therefor your refresh.
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By Galkapryme 2020-04-24 18:09:58
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By Raistl0n 2020-04-24 18:21:26
Lol
By gistofanything 2020-04-24 18:49:27
Relics (and aeonics to some extent) need a power level increase to match other rema weapons, this one included. :(
Asura.Nebohh
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By Asura.Nebohh 2020-04-24 20:50:19
Lol. Attention to detail is very important before you decide to make something.
By SimonSes 2020-04-25 14:59:15
Relics (and aeonics to some extent) need a power level increase to match other rema weapons, this one included. :(
Relics has kinda different pros to be used. Utility and additional versatility from unique WS:
Spharai: Counter and Kick rate
Excalibur: Refresh/Regen/Block and sword Fusion WS for RDM.
Ragnarok: Fusion great sword WS
Bravura: DT/regen
Apocalypse: Drain HP WS and 10%JA haste
Gungnir: Distorion WS and lol spikes
Yoichi/Anni: static low hate WS
They could improve on those even in simply way like:
Make Spharai counter Counter II and brake 80% cap
Make Bravura DT II
Make Gungnir spikes gives 100% stun resist for both amster and wyvern (idk lol)
No idea for other atm xD
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By gistofanything 2020-04-25 15:28:13
Quote: Make Gungnir spikes gives 100% stun resist for both hamster and wyvern (idk lol)
hmmmm
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2020-04-25 15:35:11
Quote: Make Gungnir spikes gives 100% stun resist for both hamster and wyvern (idk lol)
hmmmm
Stupid fact, Gungnir's shock spikes proc rate appears to be based on enhancing magic skill.. which Dragoon doesn't have..
DA+5/Attack+5% Aftermath isn't the worst though.
Yoichi is trash btw.. Needs a lot of work.
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By SimonSes 2020-04-25 15:58:09
Yoichi is trash btw.. Needs a lot of work.
Knowing SE, they are worried to make too good ranged option for SAM.
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Leviathan.Kingkitt
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2020-04-25 22:29:26
Yoichi is trash btw.. Needs a lot of work.
Knowing SE, they are worried to make too good ranged option for SAM.
I have r15 yoichi and i enjoy it. It's not complete trash, and given current gear options you can make good builds for it considering it's bow sam
By Jetackuu 2020-04-25 23:19:17
your idle refresh is horribad if it's only 6.
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2020-04-26 02:07:30
6 ftw but yea 6 is good but just my opinion id rather idle in 50%dt just my opinion cause refresh 3 and ballads with g horn don't need refresh
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By SimonSes 2020-04-26 02:57:30
your idle refresh is horribad if it's only 6.
I have 5 lol
I much more like to have PDT/MDT/18%movement and very high meva on WHM idle, to not get hit by any debuffs or dont get killed when I stand in AoE range (which is very often because I multibox, so Im probably biased here). If you dont multibox and only play WHM then I guess having high refresh idle set is more important and beneficial, but if you can always get BalladIII defensive idle is much better imo. Try doing Odyssey for example in idle refresh and pop Mimic. You would keep getting stunned a lot. Also try to aggro something or get hate in Odyssey on higher floors and tell me how cool are those 700-1000 crits :D
Leviathan.Kingkitt
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2020-04-26 08:25:31
WHM has the luxury of having really nice hybrid idle sets for dirt cheap.
DT-39, PDT-12, MDT-19, Refresh +7~8, and tons of meva.
ItemSet 366076
Cape augmented with MND, eva/meva, and pdt.
By SimonSes 2020-04-26 09:28:34
I use Embla Sash for idle for Sublimation and SoA ring for 18% movement speed. I wouldnt trade Inyanga pants for Assiduity pants. It's only 1 refresh more and only if you are in high ranked unity, but you lose 40 meva. Body is much better trade of 2-3 refresh for 20 meva. Weapon/sub is interesting too. I use Daybreak and Genmei shield. I have 15 more meva, slightly more def and 1 refresh there and I guess very small chance to block soemtimes(?), but I dont have capped PDT in my setup (only at 41%), so I might consider to use your weapon/sub combo.
By Jetackuu 2020-04-26 11:06:12
That's even worse. Like I said: horribad. You should have more than 1 idle set...
By SimonSes 2020-04-26 11:18:02
That's even worse. Like I said: horribad. You should have more than 1 idle set...
Why? In last year I havent once ran on mp and sublimation got significant upgrade from DI. Tbh I have refresh idle set too, but I havent used that toggle even once.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2020-04-26 13:54:43
You can get away with a hybrid idle set, but most good players would have:
1. MP-refresh focused idle
2. Refresh+PDT set
3. Refresh+Movement speed (title)
By Jetackuu 2020-04-26 16:24:21
You can get away with a hybrid idle set, but most good players would have:
1. MP-refresh focused idle
2. Refresh+DT+MEVA set
3. Refresh+Movement speed (title)
ftfw
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2020-04-26 16:32:22
I'm a fan of this as a general idle set.
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Asura.Nebohh
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By Asura.Nebohh 2020-04-26 17:10:40
I have a 16 idle refresh set and toggle MEVA similar to Llewelyn’s when the need arises.
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By Asura.Trumpet 2020-04-27 14:55:54
Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »WHM has the luxury of having really nice hybrid idle sets for dirt cheap.
DT-39, PDT-12, MDT-19, Refresh +7~8, and tons of meva.
ItemSet 366076
Cape augmented with MND, eva/meva, and pdt.
This gave me some ideas to improve my own set so I'm grateful already, but is Irenic +1 better than Enki grip? Enki has 5 less meva but 10 more INT/MND.
Leviathan.Kingkitt
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2020-04-28 16:13:49
Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »WHM has the luxury of having really nice hybrid idle sets for dirt cheap.
DT-39, PDT-12, MDT-19, Refresh +7~8, and tons of meva.
ItemSet 366076
Cape augmented with MND, eva/meva, and pdt.
This gave me some ideas to improve my own set so I'm grateful already, but is Irenic +1 better than Enki grip? Enki has 5 less meva but 10 more INT/MND.
Not entirely sure, would say generally that meva +15 is probably better but i could be wrong.
By SimonSes 2020-04-28 16:56:44
I have a 16 idle refresh set and toggle MEVA similar to Llewelyn’s when the need arises.
Like I said, it depends what you use WHM for and if you are actually multiboxing it or not. When you multibox whm, you dont have time to alt-tab to it and switch to hybrid. You just play safe and stay in hybrid. There is no reason to go out of hybrid in the first place imo, if I dont have MP issue at all. I would say hybrid set should be your basic idle and refresh set would be the set you switch to when need arise (when you see you are using more mp than you are getting back, which is almost never for me, but I almost always have BalladIII on my WHM).
Relics are relatively cheap to make now (at least until you get to the umbral marrow and rocks). I want to know if Mjollnir at iLVL 119 III with AG's refresh triggered by Aftermath, or just a latent? Refresh+5 is a nice amount for a idle piece, and Mj has some good DD stats on it also. The wiki is kinda unclear, since it lists the refresh right under aftermath.
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