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Random Politics & Religion #08
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 10:32:29
I saw an NBC poll yesterday with Johnson pounding the piss out of everyone by like 20 percentage points. Clearly online polling is problematic. Obviously who follows them is key.
I thought it was interesting that on wikilicks Trump was ahead by large margins.
Indeed.
Makes sense, though.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-07-29 10:37:06
Nik, I thought we were pretty clear by now that I at least passively, if not actively, make that my goal with every post. I'm here to help ease/hasten your transition to full-blown dementia.
best of luck to you in all your endeavors then I guess....
but could someone please... pretty please with cream and sugar on it point to something POSITIVE that hillary clinton has done other than enrich herself on the blood of the american taxpayer?
I guess positive depends on your perspective. If you are anti-gay than you find her time as first lady and as Senator to be very successful. If you want to see hundreds of thousand of Muslims killed then you'd view her time as Secretary of State to be successful.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 10:38:46
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »hundreds of thousand of Muslims killed then you'd view her time as Secretary of State to be successful.
Then why isn't she getting more redneck support?
Not saying that to be flippant. I know many rednecks. They really, truly would like to see lots of Muslims dead. They don't care about innocence or guilt in the grand scheme, they care about "us vs. them and if you're Muslim, you're 'them.'"
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-07-29 10:39:58
I cannot speak for your associates.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 10:41:24
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I cannot speak for your associates.
"Associates" is a loose term. There's some overlapping circles on the diagram, that's all.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-29 10:42:43
I think you only open your mouth to bash Clinton with whatever you feel like saying about her that day...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-29 10:43:15
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »hundreds of thousand of Muslims killed then you'd view her time as Secretary of State to be successful.
Then why isn't she getting more redneck support?
Not saying that to be flippant. I know many rednecks. They really, truly would like to see lots of Muslims dead. They don't care about innocence or guilt in the grand scheme, they care about "us vs. them and if you're Muslim, you're 'them.'" That is most certainly not a redneck only issue.
If the DNC is any indication of liberal policies, the entire liberal/democrat platform is "us vs. them" rhetoric.
Us vs. Republicans
Us vs. Bernie Supporters
Us vs. White people
Us vs. Men
Us vs. Russia
Us vs. Trump
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 10:46:49
That is most certainly not a redneck only issue.
If the DNC is any indication of liberal policies, the entire liberal/democrat platform is "us vs. them" rhetoric.
You're twisting what I'm saying. "Us vs. them" is a refrain in all politics. There isn't a single politician out there truly seeking to unite everyone.
I'm merely talking in the nationalistic/national safety standpoint.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-29 10:53:57
That is most certainly not a redneck only issue.
If the DNC is any indication of liberal policies, the entire liberal/democrat platform is "us vs. them" rhetoric.
You're twisting what I'm saying. "Us vs. them" is a refrain in all politics. There isn't a single politician out there truly seeking to unite everyone.
I'm merely talking in the nationalistic/national safety standpoint. I'm talking about that too.
Us vs. Cops
Us vs. certain states
Us vs. Military
I'll admit that there are idiots out there on the (R) side of the coin who would love to kill all humans Muslims, but you have to admit that there are idiots out there on the (D) side that would love to kill all Cops, politicians, and everyone who disagrees with them.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:05:12
I'll admit that there are idiots out there on the (R) side of the coin who would love to kill all humans Muslims, but you have to admit that there are idiots out there on the (D) side that would love to kill all Cops, politicians, and everyone who disagrees with them.
Without getting into hair splitting on the topic, yes. I agree.
There are complete nutbars across the board.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:05:30
But again, I was merely expanding on that one point Aman made.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-29 11:13:35
Then why isn't she getting more redneck support?
Because she promised to put all the coal miners out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil drillers out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil refiners out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil frackers out of work
Because she promised to put all the off shore drillers out of work
And, perhaps surprisingly, this will effect everyone in related fields from pipe fitters to truck drivers...
And let's see....then there is NAFTA...which perhaps you didn't hear about but the short version it's not a real big win for the unions....
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:15:05
Which has nothing to do with the point he made!
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:15:51
He said "if you want to see hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed, you'd view her time as SoS as a success."
Well, that's what they want!
So they should view her as a success, right?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-07-29 11:16:17
I think you only open your mouth to bash Clinton with whatever you feel like saying about her that day...
Cool story, Bro.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-29 11:17:36
He said "if you want to see hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed, you'd view her time as SoS as a success."
Well, that's what they want!
So they should view her as a success, right?
It takes more than one "success" in a sea of failure to view a person as a success overall.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-29 11:17:56
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I guess positive depends on your perspective. If you are anti-gay than you find her time as first lady and as Senator to be very successful. If you want to see hundreds of thousand of Muslims killed then you'd view her time as Secretary of State to be successful. The eyes. They won't stop rolling.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-29 11:18:41
He said "if you want to see hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed, you'd view her time as SoS as a success."
Well, that's what they want!
So they should view her as a success, right?
Maybe your are projecting your own hatred onto others and all they want is to work hard and provide for their families.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-29 11:21:07
Then why isn't she getting more redneck support?
Because she promised to put all the coal miners out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil drillers out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil refiners out of work
Because she promised to put all the oil frackers out of work
Because she promised to put all the off shore drillers out of work
And, perhaps surprisingly, this will effect everyone in related fields from pipe fitters to truck drivers...
And let's see....then there is NAFTA...which perhaps you didn't hear about but the short version it's not a real big win for the unions.... Coal has been going downhill for quite a while now... Oil's issue is the current glut we have combined with less Americans driving... Also, *** current unions!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-29 11:21:29
you're*
I'm sorry 8th grade english teacher!!!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-29 11:22:47
Also, *** current unions!
lol
ok... but then try not to act surprised when they don't come out in droves for hillary this november
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-07-29 11:24:02
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I guess positive depends on your perspective. If you are anti-gay than you find her time as first lady and as Senator to be very successful. If you want to see hundreds of thousand of Muslims killed then you'd view her time as Secretary of State to be successful. The eyes. They won't stop rolling.
Why exactly?
May I introduce you to some of her record in Political Office. 4 minutes you can handle it. It is only her talking.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-29 11:24:53
Also, *** current unions!
lol
ok... but then try not to act surprised when they don't come out in droves for hillary this november I hope they don't... Maybe then the Dems will be freed from their role in trying to constantly appease the unions while the tax payers get bent over... We can get back to negotiating for real instead of just pandering in the short term for votes...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-29 11:27:29
Hillary definitely was anti-gay pandering for quite awhile... Her stance on that changed sometime within the last idk 10 years?
Trying to put the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims at her feet is a bit disingenuous... Besides I thought you blamed Obama for that already...
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:29:04
He said "if you want to see hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed, you'd view her time as SoS as a success."
Well, that's what they want!
So they should view her as a success, right?
It takes more than one "success" in a sea of failure to view a person as a success overall.
I concur. And the inverse, of course, is also true.
Which is why I'm trying to make this point. He's using a single, unclear metric for some sort of facetious, quick zinger. Which while, credit where it's due, is a very, very "internet" thing to do so congrats for that, but...
...ultimately not really worthwhile in the discussion.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-29 11:31:50
Also, *** current unions!
lol
ok... but then try not to act surprised when they don't come out in droves for hillary this november I hope they don't... Maybe then the Dems will be freed from their role in trying to constantly appease the unions while the tax payers get bent over... We can get back to negotiating for real instead of just pandering in the short term for votes... That will never happen.
All they know about is pandering for votes.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:32:03
Also, *** current unions!
lol
ok... but then try not to act surprised when they don't come out in droves for hillary this november I hope they don't... Maybe then the Dems will be freed from their role in trying to constantly appease the unions while the tax payers get bent over... We can get back to negotiating for real instead of just pandering in the short term for votes...
Unions are problematic in general. But until collective bargaining becomes the guaranteed right it should be, they or some similar thing remains necessary. I just think it's unfortunate that, like the NRA, they chose to get involved in issues well outside of their prerogative for the sake of political favors.
Which ultimately comes down to the government being corrupt ***, one way or the other.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-29 11:33:47
But until collective bargaining becomes the guaranteed right it should be HA
Like that will ever happen.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-29 11:34:05
Which is why I'm trying to make this point.
That you are bigoted and prejudiced towards rednecks?
We got that point a long time ago.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-29 11:34:22
But until collective bargaining becomes the guaranteed right it should be HA
Like that will ever happen.
Well our conclusion is the same, if not for different reasons.
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