$14.5 B Tax Refunds Issued By "error"

So, in your mind, all presidential assassination and those that were attempted and failed were done only because the banks wanted them dead, and not because their politics were threatening to the person, enough to not only take the president's life but also the life of the assassin. (Well, those who were sane that is)

If that's true, then explain why there hasn't been a direct attack on Obama's life? Obama's administration has done more to hurt the banking system than any other president, but yet, there were no real threats towards his life. Explain that.

So, let's see.

My flag above my avatar is Czechoslovakia. That country doesn't exist anymore, hasn't existed for a while, since the Iron Curtain fell in 1990. The reason why I placed that flag as my country of origin is a form of protest towards this nation's administration.

I am a Texan. In case you don't know, Texans are very proud of their state and country, and I'm about as hardcore Texan as one can get. If you don't believe me, ask Volkom, Zahrah, and Anna.

Now, why is my being a hardcore Texan so important? Well, for somebody who loves his state and country so much, I would be waving the US flag (since Texas flag isn't an option on this website) all the time. Except I'm not. This shows the significance of my protest. I have not waved this flag above my avatar since Obama came into office. And I won't until we have a real leader in the White House.

Are you attributing all suicides from bankers (and accountants by extension) to be about some super secret plot for the banking system to take over the world? Are you really that insane?

@lordgrim

it's not difficult to figure out that the way money is being created (via debt) + interests + advancing technology + capitalism ends with 99,999999999999% of the people having nothing and the remaining 1/100000000000% owns everything. There is a worldwide robbery going on and the currency is the gun.....

untill you are able to calculate x+y=constant (in case of currency constant=0)

Why? You are just going to regress to your imaginary world whenever I present a counterpoint to your argument.

Until you are able to face reality, trying to talk to you is pointless.

according to your statements, 10.000-10.000=1.000.000



seriously, take some math lessons.

I never said take over the world, nor did i say there is anything wrong with loving your state and country when you had that flag up in my opinion i thought you was from another nation, you fooled me there. But regardless you have a choice to not raise any flag in america just know this, our national flag is the one beside my post name with the 50 states. United We Stand.

For your question about why there hasnt been a direct attack on President Obama yet ?
I do not see why they would want to harm him he is doing everything they want even approving a 1.1 trillion bill with a democrat senate majority that just lost to republicans and will carry over there spending for 1 full year under republican run congress with money we do not have and guess what another banker bail out. YET we the people will be forced to foot the Odious Debt.

Are you denying there could be a reason why so many of these bankers world wide are dieing off all of a sudden and there suicide cases are not even solved, especially with the jp Morgan ones?

How fast you are to demean folks who want to know truth. it seems you do not even want to know the truth you just want to live life being lied to all the time ?

Because of the thread title, 14.5 billion tax refunds issues by " error"

Prove it.

And this time, use reality as the basis of your argument, not some fantasy dream you concocted...

i just did, i gone the same way as you are ^^

you haven't proven anything yet, so why exactly should i prove anything?

You know what, never mind.

There's no cure for stupidity, except death.

yeah, so there's hope that you will be cured someday :>

i gave you all the proof our country can be debt free without the federal reserve.

the proof was President Andrew Jackson the first President we had to EVER PAY OUR DEBT OFF AND THE ONLY WAY WAS BY ABOLISHING CENTRAL FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING.

There is the FACTS and the PROOF that no other President YET has been able to do.

WE CAN DO IT AGAIN UNDER THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP.

sorry for the caps not sure how simple i can put it, its not difficult to understand .

EDIT: do not confuse " the right leadership" as republican or democrat leadership

Except I didn't say that 10,000 minus 10,000 equals 1,000,000. That was you.

I would say that was error on your part, but there is no way you can take 10,000 anything 10,000 to equal 1,000,000.

indeed, and yet people like you are saying that everyone can be rich/wealthy......

x+y=0

x = group a
y = group b

so what happens to group b when group a gets +10.000 in their savings?

according to your theory, the ending changes:
x+y=z

but it isn't that way....

currency actually works by:

x+y=0

So, what happened since Andrew Johnson was president? We didn't have a central banking system from 1875-1913. Was the country debt free between those dates? According to you, they weren't.

But the Fed wasn't around during that time, so what happened? You can't blame a centralized banking system that didn't exist to incur debt of a government.

Did the Fed create the debt we currently have? Is it in the Fed's power to control the government's spending?

Can you prove any of this?

I didn't think so.

So, basically, you just told me to die.

I wonder, if a mod will issue a warning or not. I guess it depends on the mod in question.

i didn't..... that's your interpretation...... and since you've appearently missed the biology lessons as well.... all of us will die someday ;)

I'm guessing you are talking about money flow, not actual wealth.

Even then, you got it wrong.

Wealth is created by production, not debt.

Currency is created as a method to keep inflation from expanding the value of money from being an unsustainable item.

Currency is also a tool to convert services/assets for services/assets.

Don't confuse the two. Wealth is intangible, but currencies are tangible.

I would be highly surprised if you knew what "intangible" and "tangible" ment.

and how is wealth/production is being paid? with currency.... and currency is debt..... so wealth/production is being paid with debts.

Let me ask you this.

If you look up in the sky, how many moons are there?

Is the sky blue? Pink? Green? Yellow?

If you stick your hand in fire, does it burn, or tickle you?

Do you live in a hospital that requires patients to wear white coats with their sleeves wrapped around their bodies? I'm guessing yes on this one.

Is it? So, do you think that all currency is debt?

as it goes for dollar, euro and the other things.... yes.
balance sheet extension... google it.

so if you want to raise the GDP/GNI you have to raise the debt as well in order to be able to pay the raise of the GDP/GNI (only exception is price-deflation, but which company wants that?)

I never said Johnson i said JACKSON

YES there was corruption under Johnsons administration but LISTEN to me, we can restore SERIOUS accountability if Theft of american tax payer money ever happens again under the right leadership. Because currently with the d's and r's they encourage theft of it.

here is another fact " There is no written law in the US that protects the American Citizens money"
YET there is countless laws that benefit corporations and banks

King listen bud we did so much better off without centralized fractional reserve banking in our country the proof is the written history of our economics and the value of our currency then. Money went a lot further back then , then it does now you can not honestly deny that if you do you are a LAIR AND REFUSE TO LISTEN TO TRUTH.

messed up the qoetue feature sorry the last text was not Kingnobody's words

Sorry, you mentioned Lincoln and Johnson together, my mind automatically went to Jackson, since Jackson was the VP at the time of Lincoln's murder.

So, change the dates from 1875 to 1837, and my point still stands.


Sorry, but you are assuming that there were no governmental taxes prior to 1913. Which is incorrect. There were multiple federal taxes prior to the income tax, they just didn't provide the income for defense needed when the world started to advance into a dangerous place.

But when you state "theft" of money, you are implying that income taxes are illegal. Can you really say that?


Yet, there are even more laws that benefit individuals. Are you going to say that there is no written law in the US that protects the corporation's money?

Remember, every corporate law out there is for the benefit of the individual, while most of the individual laws don't benefit a corporation.

Oh really? So, you are able to prove that our economy was progressing at a higher rate without a centralized banking system than one with a centralized banking system.

Let's make it fair for both of us. Let's use 5 year average increases and see who's right and who's wrong.

You go first.

If you are talking about inflation, then you are correct. However, are you attributing inflation solely on a centralized banking system?

Andrew Jackson was not Lincolns VP he was dead before the civil war

There wasn't a global economy prior to 1913, or at least not one as productive as we have today.

We also didn't have the technology back then as we do today.

Are you saying that we should have stopped progressing as a society when prior to 1913?

Yeah, I seriously don't think you ever read the Constitution. You think that Section 1 doesn't exist...

I already stated that I got Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson mixed up.

Out of the entire post, that's all you got from it?

I appreciate you admitting that everything else is correct.