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By Asura.Tymoris 2014-11-01 12:27:28
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
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There there it's ok I am sure it feels nice to find videos to validate whatever you believe in without having to do anything yourself^^

Must feel equally nice to be so knowledgable that you can invalidate anything by simply saying it's wrong. For all your alleged research, you've presented nothing besides "neener neener neener, you're wrong".

Yes it's true I should treat everyone like they have an IQ of 50 and are unable to do their own research.

Or I should just treat them like intelligent adults and just poke fun at their particular biases^^
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By Asura.Tymoris 2014-11-01 12:30:45
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She just uses the same boring arguments that have been rebuked many times over, situational examples that just takes them as a defacto truth and the few valid points she makes are actually the points feminism is making only she tries to pass them off as her own.

Just another "Anti-" person.
If you have something to post, I'd hope it would be educating or enlightening.



Reassure me that this is the rough draft of what you hope to post right?


Nah what am I your teacher?

Oh. I'm sorry. I thought you wanted your assertions to be taken seriously.

If the way you write is any indication of whether or not you want your point understood, I think we can agree that you are a fool.


True because when the main argument is "People are getting brainwashed by Huff Post" obviously it is the fertile ground for valid points and intelligent discussion^^
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-11-01 12:35:28
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Asura.Tymoris said: »
I posted something stupid and got called out for it. Better double down, can't have anyone on the internet thinking I'm ignorant.

All you need to do is sign out and look at something else, when you check back tomorrow the thread will either have buried this under a few pages or fallen out of the front page.

Alternatively, support your argument and people may take you seriously.
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By fonewear 2014-11-01 12:39:32
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Someone posted something without research on the internet quick alert the proper authorities !


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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-01 12:43:15
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There is so much anti-feminism hate on the internet. News sites always talk about the extreme ones (you know the Religions nuts who think they shouldn't have the right to vote and should just make babies all day) and then make fun of them by calling them uneducated, confused and misinformed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/women-against-feminism-tumblr-facebook-_n_5585163.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/anti-feminist-women-hobby-lobby-decision-great
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By fonewear 2014-11-01 12:47:41
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What do you expect from such esteemed sites like Huff Post. The best in news journalism around.
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By Blazed1979 2014-11-01 14:43:22
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she's coherent, demonstrates deep thought and reflection, can connect the dots and communicate her opinion - she's a beauty queen in my book and women like this are rare as hell.
She's actually attractive physically as well. I'm sure the dumb bimbos and "married to their porn" boys will disagree. And I pity them.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-11-01 15:13:18
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I haven't had a chance to watch any of her other videos, but I hope she's improved her delivery. The regular scoffing noises and choked, bitter laughter is exactly the sort of reaction one should have in conversation but it undermines her presentation by making her seem incredibly arrogant to the point of being contemptuous of her target.

Granted, she is contemptuous of her target, and rightly so in my opinion, but I doubt she wins many converts by being direct about it.
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By Artemicion 2014-11-01 16:45:23
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innate nature of society.
>_>

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Society... Having an innate nature... Like society is something with an internal to have... Rather than being completely defined and generated by the people in power within that society...

Yeah. No.
Society is a creation of man.
There is nothing innate about it.
It is defined by the histories experienced by the people living within that society.

Did you watch the video? Society/civilization has had an innate trait of putting the benefit of women before men for valid reasons which have lingered in various nuances to this day despite holding no merit or validity anymore. Back when we feeble and prone to being wiped out from disease, exposure and hunger, you better believe that women held more value than men for the sake of continuing to exist. That's an innate self interest of society, and bits and pieces of that continue to linger.

However, this is not to discredit or undermine your statement. You're right, society is often defined by authority figures and leaders of groups through the ages, and crafted by cultural norms. However, I don't have a doubt in my mind that there are parts of society that have an intrinsic nature that goes into a more cerebral and primal purpose than simply what one finds to be a practical direction for their people.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-11-02 06:37:29
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She's discussing male obligation vs female privilege. Historically feminism has criticized male privilege, lamenting female obligation and assaulting any mention of male obligation and female privilege. Social obligations and privileges are balanced for the stability of a society at a macro level. If the progressive wish to conduct social experiments and redefine society they need to take into account the reasons those natural gender roles formed to begin with. And no this invisible every present yet undetectable unmoving mover known as "the patriarchy" isn't an acceptable answer. Right now society is horribly unbalanced in western nations, almost all female obligation has been removed along with male privilege but male obligation and female privilege has been kept intact courtesy of feminism. One needs look no further then a divorce hearing, child custody battle or child protective services to see how horrifically unbalanced it all is.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-02 08:11:06
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Asura.Tymoris said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Tymoris said: »
There there it's ok I am sure it feels nice to find videos to validate whatever you believe in without having to do anything yourself^^

Must feel equally nice to be so knowledgable that you can invalidate anything by simply saying it's wrong. For all your alleged research, you've presented nothing besides "neener neener neener, you're wrong".

Yes it's true I should treat everyone like they have an IQ of 50 and are unable to do their own research.

Or I should just treat them like intelligent adults and just poke fun at their particular biases^^
If you want to at least pretend to profess intelligence, you should at least do some of the basics. Like sentence structure, use of semicolons and/or commas, and proper grammar.

Also, the use of better words instead of simplistic ones tend to portray the notion of intelligence better. A Thesaurus is your friend.

Again, as a few people have pointed out to you, it also helps if you explain why you don't agree with the topic at hand and present your own argument.

So, my suggestion to you is, if you don't want to be grouped into a few posters (who I can't mention their names out of respect of girlboy) who not only never present their arguments, but always say that they are the absolute and you need to learn to read because they are always right (which is 99% of their rebuttals), then you need to heed my advice.

Because if you think these posters have an IQ of 50, then by default you have an IQ of 25.
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By Blazed1979 2014-11-02 16:48:34
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
She's discussing male obligation vs female privilege. Historically feminism has criticized male privilege, lamenting female obligation and assaulting any mention of male obligation and female privilege. Social obligations and privileges are balanced for the stability of a society at a macro level. If the progressive wish to conduct social experiments and redefine society they need to take into account the reasons those natural gender roles formed to begin with. And no this invisible every present yet undetectable unmoving mover known as "the patriarchy" isn't an acceptable answer. Right now society is horribly unbalanced in western nations, almost all female obligation has been removed along with male privilege but male obligation and female privilege has been kept intact courtesy of feminism. One needs look no further then a divorce hearing, child custody battle or child protective services to see how horrifically unbalanced it all is.

I agree, but the question is where are all the men?

I'm getting to the age where the next generation are entering the work force. These "males" are different. They have more in common with their female colleagues than me. They spend their entire salaries on clothing, some wear makeup and pass on comments like "oh my god are you gonna eat that?" at the cafeterias buffet - its a *** steak.

At the gym they say the dumbest ***like "oh I'm just doing low weights high reps to maintain my physique"... "Don't you worry about getting a heart attack lifting those weights and eating red meat?"

I'm already spending at least 3-4 hours a week with my kids watching transformers generation 1 and G.I Joe because the cartoons today make the male either a fat sack of sad lard or a complete push over.


My son actually asked me who would win in a fight, superman or wonderwoman?!

Now we got *** Thor becoming a female. Gonna set me back at least a month in bringing my sons up to be normal.
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-11-02 17:42:44
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My son actually asked me who would win in a fight, superman or wonderwoman?!

the answer of course is batman. You should also make him watch batman the animated series. I have permanently lost my G1 transformers DVDs and the movie to my nephew.

The horror of modern day cartoons...I feel like kids are losing out so bad. The scales are out of balance!
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-11-02 18:48:29
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Was this really de-mained after less than 2 pages? Why?
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-11-02 19:24:09
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Was this really de-mained after less than 2 pages? Why?

Because you can only say the same thing over and over so many times? For myself, eventually the condescension and use of *pick your gender* privilege to explain or justify the outlook leaves me curled up in the fetal position in my kitchen.

If it helps, maybe we can examine the fact that the few female Autobots when they do show up are portrayed as saving the dumb inept males, autobots who can never do anything right? Freaking Optimus Prime and Ironhide can't shoot to save their lives in a firefight, but give the lady a blaster and she can fight off the entire decepticon army.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-11-02 20:37:05
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Not sure if you understood what I meant, but someone flagged the thread to not show on the main page. I wasn't commenting on the amount of conversation(or lack of), but that it was set not to show.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-02 20:52:22
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Blazed1979 said: »
Where are all the men?
Chillin with this guy.

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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-11-03 04:14:46
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I agree, but the question is where are all the men?

Modern feminized nations have emasculated their own populations to the point that the men resemble women more often then not. It all boils down to the progressives insistence that there is something inherently wrong with masculinity and that femininity should be praised and worshiped.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-03 05:44:06
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So many good articles...

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By now, you’ve probably seen the viral video in which the frumpy woman with the “Flashdance” hair walks around the streets of New York City getting catcalled.

The hidden-camera video was released last week by Hollaback, a group that bills itself as “an international movement to end street harassment.” The video documents the woman, 24-year-old actress Shoshana Roberts walking the streets of New York for 10 hours as she claims to be the victim of some 100 instances of harassment.

Now, The New York Times wants to know if a law should shield white feminist women by preventing black and Hispanic men from speaking to them, and possibly offending their tender sensibilities.

“Do We Need a Law Against Catcalling?” the august, Victorian newspaper asks.

“Should current laws dealing with harassment be strengthened to include catcalling, or will that go too far in trying to control speech and behavior?”

In the video, virtually every man who speaks to Roberts (with comments such as “How you doing today?”) is either black or Hispanic.

While some commenters who responded to the “Room for Debate” piece noted the potential constitutional problems with a law against minority men chatting up white women, others wholeheartedly agreed that men on public streets must be silenced.

“I agree that there should be a law against street harassment,” wrote a commenter named Andrea from Boston. “I am sick of people telling me that a man’s First Amendment right is more important than my right to feel safe in public places.”

Reader SZ agreed.

“There should be a law. It is scary and infuriating. Who are they to ruin my day? Who are they to attempt to diminish me? I have no recourse,” SZ complained, apparently seriously. “Anything I say or do inspires more unwanted attention. The bullies have made the law necessary.”
Should Black And Hispanic Men Be Banned From Chatting Up White Feminist Women?

And darn that puberty!

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Many transgender teenagers dread puberty, and not just because of the pimples and squeaky voices.

As bodies start to change, children slowly and uncontrollably leave the relative comfort of their younger years; for transgender kids, this transition is even more fraught, as appearances that may have been somewhat androgynous and enabled them to pass for another sex begin to fade into an undeniably gendered adulthood. Transgender youth grow into bodies that are not just more mature versions of themselves but that can feel like a foreign vessel, experts say.

Though Oregon was preparing to become the first state to allow low-income teens to use Medicaid coverage for expensive puberty-blocking drugs to help them delay those body changes, it looks like trans Oregonian youth will have to wait a little longer—or just cope with puberty as it comes.

State health authorities pushed back the October implementation date of coverage for those diagnosed with gender dysphoria to January after other drugs were deemed to take precedence, said Ariel Smits, medical director of the state’s Health Evidence Review.

It’s been a long wait for Oregon trans teens. The state approved Medicaid coverage of puberty blockers for gender dysphoria use two years ago, but implementation delays are common in the state program, Smits said.

The delay, however, hasn’t dented the spirit of triumph in the Oregon trans community, one advocate said.

“We know adolescents who were suicidal—terrified of going into puberty,” said Jenn Burleton, executive director of the TransActive Gender Center in Portland, which works with about 400 transgender youths and their families and was instrumental in pushing the state to cover puberty suppression drugs.

Giving teens the option of blocking anxiety-invoking body changes helps save lives, Burleton said. Transgender people, which comprise about 1 percent of the population, have an exceptionally high suicide rate, about 40 percent.

“It’s preemptive proactive treatment that prevents unnecessary trauma,” she said.

Puberty suppression meds, which cost $750 to $1,200 a month and are often not covered by private insurers in gender dysphoria cases, have been used for several decades to treat precocious puberty. They work by blocking the brain’s release of proteins that stimulate hormones producing secondary sex characteristics, such as breasts and menstruation or facial hair and Adam’s apple.

The effects are completely reversible, said Veronica Gómez-Lobo, a pediatric obstetrician/gynecologist with the Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, D.C. As soon as children stop taking the drug, they move into puberty.

Gender dysphoric teens typically start suppressive therapy at the onset of puberty and continue until they’re about 16, when it is generally considered reasonable to start hormone therapy, which may later be supplemented by gender reassignment surgery.

Parental consent and a psychological assessment are needed before starting the course of therapy.

Both the FDA and the Endocrinological Society have approved puberty blockers for gender dysphoria, Gómez-Lobo said. A study published in July in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, concluded that suppressing puberty offered teens “the opportunity to develop into well functioning young adults.”
Why Transgender Teens Want Medicaid to Help Pay to Block Puberty
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-11-03 05:47:42
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"I am sick of people telling me that a man’s First Amendment right is more important than my right to feel safe in public places.”

The idea of something like this should have every rational person's blood running cold.
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By Blazed1979 2014-11-03 06:03:17
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Transgenders having problems with puberty?
Why are transgenders on the rise?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-03 06:24:39
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Blazed1979 said: »
Why are transgenders on the rise?
Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Modern feminized nations have emasculated their own populations to the point that the men resemble women more often then not.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-03 09:55:50
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
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I agree, but the question is where are all the men?

Modern feminized nations have emasculated their own populations to the point that the men resemble women more often then not. It all boils down to the progressives insistence that there is something inherently wrong with masculinity and that femininity should be praised and worshiped.

Gender equality is actually a celebration of the spectrum. Masculinity is prized in modern nations. If you honestly believe that the only alternative to owning women like slaves is some kind of emasculated gender-bending limp-wrist society, you need counseling.

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Transgenders having problems with puberty?
Why are transgenders on the rise?

What makes you think that transgenders are "on the rise"? Similar to gays, once they can speak about their lives without being beaten in the streets (for the most part), they become more visible, but that doesn't mean there are any more or less of them. One very positive thing to note about LGBT is that their suicide rates are on a steady decline. Shaming people into suicide or stoning them in public is a pretty bad barometer for their prevalence in society.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-11-03 10:32:56
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Now we got *** Thor becoming a female. Gonna set me back at least a month in bringing my sons up to be normal.
What do you consider normal?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 12:10:30
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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Now we got *** Thor becoming a female. Gonna set me back at least a month in bringing my sons up to be normal.
What do you consider normal?
Besides the obvious smart-*** remark, normal is relative, as each person's definition of "normal" is completely different from everyone else's definition.

Best to not ask what somebody else's definition of normal is, and discover your own definition.

(but we all know what your intent of this question really is)
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-03 12:16:49
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Normal is relative to society, not individuals. Individuals might have ideals or a normative perspective, though.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 12:43:52
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Normal is relative to society, not individuals. Individuals might have ideals or a normative perspective, though.
Wait, did you contradict your own post there?

You are saying that the idea of normality is not an individualistic idea, but individuals can have different ideas of normality?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-11-03 12:55:20
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Normal is relative to society, not individuals. Individuals might have ideals or a normative perspective, though.
Wait, did you contradict your own post there?

You are saying that the idea of normality is not an individualistic idea, but individuals can have different ideas of normality?
He did not.

He said that what is actually considered normal is relative to society not the indivudual... Having stated that though, he went on to explain that it does not always stop people from having a differing perspective...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-03 13:29:49
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So paragons of masculinity,

How many women do I have to thrash and rape in order to be at the apex of testosterone-fueled victory?

Also, why aren't you living in Saudi Arabia?
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-11-03 13:42:46
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Normal is relative to society, not individuals. Individuals might have ideals or a normative perspective, though.
Wait, did you contradict your own post there?

You are saying that the idea of normality is not an individualistic idea, but individuals can have different ideas of normality?
He did not.

He said that what is actually considered normal is relative to society not the indivudual... Having stated that though, he went on to explain that it does not always stop people from having a differing perspective...

So it is..... except when it isn't.