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Want to take over France? Now's the chance!
By volkom 2014-08-25 10:33:47
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this just reminded me of :

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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2014-08-26 08:43:54
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France in a nutshell
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-26 08:55:39
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Its all part of the plan for a Dutch conquest.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-26 10:46:15
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Second verse of "God Save the Queen"

O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all

Seems to be working....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-26 10:50:15
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Second verse of "God Save the Queen"

O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all

Seems to be working....
Yeah, way to go British!

Add aggression in your national anthem....
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-27 08:37:24
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Take over FRANCE?

You must be kidding. France is about as socialist as countries ever get.
Apparently they are leaving Socialism and moving to a different governmental/economical system.

Now's the perfect chance to take it over and spread "Freedom" all over the place.
ftfy

oh wait, there's not enough brown people.

The folks at Fergusson should head to France and take over. They're good at putting their hands up.

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By Asura.Darknaut 2014-08-27 09:35:20
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ScaevolaBahamut said: »
the french had the best military record of any nation in europe up until world war 2, at which point they realized they were literally running out of french people and said "oh well, nuclear deterrent"

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Some of us are actually excited for this change, believe it or not.

i am, of course, simply SHOCKED to hear you are happy about the collapse of a left-wing government, but i would like to think that regardless of my personal politics i would root for hollande's government to serve as a counterweight against the various center-right-to-straight-up-neofascist governments populating the EU right now

Not here for debate if left/right wing governement is better than the other side, we have a history with the french revolution , that gives voice to the people, and that respects the rule of law and the rights of all. Now the actual main problem is how move this country with its longstanding commitment to workplace dialogue... We does not offer concessions to the politics ... We want have all and offering nothing in return because we are dumb french people T.T Meanwhile , neofacist grow up in the country ... we are the country with the most social benefits and that is a problem now with economy stagnating .
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-27 09:42:38
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"Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money."

I guess they ran out of other people's money and had to resign.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-27 13:22:59
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About time they went after this crook.

Christine Lagarde, I.M.F. Chief, Under Investigation in France
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-27 13:47:48
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Hopefully thats the last time the IMF chief is French.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-27 16:44:36
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Hopefully thats the last time the IMF chief is French.
From the article I would hope so, but fear that may not be the case.

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Since 1944, when the I.M.F. was conceived, the fund’s top official has been a European, with the job alternating among Western European nations. Ms. Lagarde took over as managing director of the fund in 2011 after her French predecessor, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, left in disgrace amid charges — later dismissed — that he had sexually assaulted a woman in a New York hotel room.

Ms. Lagarde had served as Mr. Sarkozy’s finance minister from 2007 until leaving for the I.M.F.

Mr. Tapie, who had been in a long dispute with a state-owned bank, Crédit Lyonnais, walked away from the arbitration in 2008 with an award of more than €400 million. Mr. Tapie had accused the bank in 1993 of bilking him when it oversaw the sale of his stake in Adidas.

In 2007, the year before the award, Mr, Tapie, who had been a career Socialist, suddenly backed Mr. Sarkozy’s center-right Union for a Popular Movement party. The amount of the award came as a shock to many, and the investigation that now involves Ms. Lagarde began after critics accused Mr. Sarkozy’s government of having carried out a sham arbitration.

Stéphane Richard, Ms. Lagarde’s former chief of staff and currently the chief executive of Orange, the French telecommunications giant, has already been placed under formal investigation on “suspicion of organized fraud.”

Since the start of the investigation, prosecutors have discovered that Mr. Tapie and his lawyer had had an undisclosed relationship with the chairman of the arbitration panel, Pierre Estoup, at the time the procedure was held. All three are now under formal investigation for possible fraud.

Prosecutors have been trying to understand at what point Ms. Lagarde learned about potential irregularity in the procedure and why she did not act to stop it.

Mr. Tapie has always maintained that he was entitled to the money, and has described the investigation as a politically motivated attack by the Socialists on Mr. Sarkozy.

Prosecutors in Paris could not immediately be reached for comment.

In a statement, the I.M.F. communications director, Gerry Rice, said Ms. Lagarde was “now on her way back to Washington and will, of course, brief the board as soon as possible. Until then, we have no further comment.”

Ms. Lagarde’s lawyer did not immediately return a request for comment, but Ms. Lagarde told Agence France-Presse that she had no intention of stepping down from her post at the monetary fund.
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By maldini 2014-08-27 17:01:39
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Just got back from 3 week vacation in Europe and UK.

I used to be pro-france... but my last 6 trips there over the last decade have shown me just how bad socialism can be.

The country is a mess. There are no professionals in france. The quality of service has dropped every year.

Paris is in shambles. There are pick pockets at every tourist location. But that is nothing new.

What is new is the actual would-be-professionals trying to rip you off and asking for extra.

No ethics, no professionalism and Paris looks like a giant pigeon took a big nasty wet ***on it.

To truly experience the contrast, stay in London for a week, then go to Paris for a week, and then to any location in Germany.

France, wtf are you doing?! lol


Just some examples:

1. The louvre tour guide openly bashed the museum's management. She spent 50% of the tour making jokes about how broke she is because they pay her close to nothing and that we could expect a better tour when they increased her pay. An american with us on the tour was appalled and went to complain with his wife and company and the management just brushed him off.

2.The Big Bus tour guide asked us to pay 50 Euros and not get a receipt or pay 135 euros and get a receipt. He told us to tell anyone who checked for tickets that we lost them during one of the stops and that he would back up our story...

3.Our hotel "lost" or gave away our rooms even though we showed up exactly at check in time and then threatened us with a blacklisting if we complained. It was only after my brother in law showed his interpol credentials that they started to retreat but that was 3 hours later. 3 hours of waiting in their lobby with really *** nasty stares and looks. when they finally admitted their mistake they sent us to another hotel since the rooms were now occupied with other guests.. I checked my credit card and they charged me for the rooms on the same night. I am now disputing this charge with my credit card company and its going to take at least 6 months to resolve because the hotel is actually claiming I didn't show up and that's part of their policy.

4.The morning breakfast buffet area wasn't being regulated or managed. I saw kids eating RIGHT OUT OF THE BUFFET trays... eating things like Spaghetti and nuttella ... when I complained they asked me what I think they should do about it...

5.Have you been to Disney Land Paris? please please never do. Especially if you've ever been to the ones in California and Florida. How the FAK can you get disney land wrong?!
Every single popular ride was out of order due to "technical problems". Some people even got stuck in Big Thunder Mountain for 30-45 minutes.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-27 17:05:00
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maldini said: »
Just got back from 3 week vacation in Europe and UK.

I used to be pro-france... but my last 6 trips there over the last decade have shown me just how bad socialism can be.

The country is a mess. There are no professionals in france. The quality of service has dropped every year.

Paris is in shambles. There are pick pockets at every tourist location. But that is nothing new.

What is new is the actual would-be-professionals trying to rip you off and asking for extra.

No ethics, no professionalism and Paris looks like a giant pigeon took a big nasty wet ***on it.

To truly experience the contrast, stay in London for a week, then go to Paris for a week, and then to any location in Germany.

France, wtf are you doing?! lol
Socialism at work. Did you honestly expect more?
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2014-08-27 17:09:41
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now only if the the american goverment would follow the same path could get all the curuption out of there and actuly get people doing things that know what they are doing and care more about the people then there pockets
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-27 17:13:27
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Lakshmi.Ryanx said: »
now only if the the american goverment would follow the same path could get all the curuption out of there and actuly get people doing things that know what they are doing and care more about the people then there pockets
Have to wait until 2016. Maybe we will get lucky with the next Republican candidate for president. Since we all know Clinton will be on the polls for the democrats, we know what to expect (same ***, different name).
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-27 18:04:09
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Ryanx said: »
now only if the the american goverment would follow the same path could get all the curuption out of there and actuly get people doing things that know what they are doing and care more about the people then there pockets
Have to wait until 2016. Maybe we will get lucky with the next Republican candidate for president. Since we all know Clinton will be on the polls for the democrats, we know what to expect (same ***, different name).
Sadly many people favor Clinton. So might as well start planning on somewhere else to go. Outlook not so good, even if you're lucky enough to not have Clinton running, no serious Republican candidate will be running nor will enough of the public vote for them.

America is stuck between a rock and a hard place and no one cares.

Going to try Serbia for a bit and go from there. I'm definitely not sticking around for 2016 for sure, just staying here long enough for one last Christmas with the family.

Eventually I'll end up in Russia, but I have to wait a few years for that.
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By volkom 2014-08-27 18:12:09
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
maldini said: »
France, wtf are you doing?! lol
Socialism at work. Did you honestly expect more?

I'm sorry that your trip to France sucked. But thanks for sharing. you made my day
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-27 18:20:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Ryanx said: »
now only if the the american goverment would follow the same path could get all the curuption out of there and actuly get people doing things that know what they are doing and care more about the people then there pockets
Have to wait until 2016. Maybe we will get lucky with the next Republican candidate for president. Since we all know Clinton will be on the polls for the democrats, we know what to expect (same ***, different name).


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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-27 18:20:20
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maldini said: »
Just got back from 3 week vacation in Europe and UK.

I used to be pro-france... but my last 6 trips there over the last decade have shown me just how bad socialism can be.

The country is a mess. There are no professionals in france. The quality of service has dropped every year.

Paris is in shambles. There are pick pockets at every tourist location. But that is nothing new.

What is new is the actual would-be-professionals trying to rip you off and asking for extra.

No ethics, no professionalism and Paris looks like a giant pigeon took a big nasty wet ***on it.

To truly experience the contrast, stay in London for a week, then go to Paris for a week, and then to any location in Germany.

France, wtf are you doing?! lol


Just some examples:

1. The louvre tour guide openly bashed the museum's management. She spent 50% of the tour making jokes about how broke she is because they pay her close to nothing and that we could expect a better tour when they increased her pay. An american with us on the tour was appalled and went to complain with his wife and company and the management just brushed him off.

2.The Big Bus tour guide asked us to pay 50 Euros and not get a receipt or pay 135 euros and get a receipt. He told us to tell anyone who checked for tickets that we lost them during one of the stops and that he would back up our story...

3.Our hotel "lost" or gave away our rooms even though we showed up exactly at check in time and then threatened us with a blacklisting if we complained. It was only after my brother in law showed his interpol credentials that they started to retreat but that was 3 hours later. 3 hours of waiting in their lobby with really *** nasty stares and looks. when they finally admitted their mistake they sent us to another hotel since the rooms were now occupied with other guests.. I checked my credit card and they charged me for the rooms on the same night. I am now disputing this charge with my credit card company and its going to take at least 6 months to resolve because the hotel is actually claiming I didn't show up and that's part of their policy.

4.The morning breakfast buffet area wasn't being regulated or managed. I saw kids eating RIGHT OUT OF THE BUFFET trays... eating things like Spaghetti and nuttella ... when I complained they asked me what I think they should do about it...

5.Have you been to Disney Land Paris? please please never do. Especially if you've ever been to the ones in California and Florida. How the FAK can you get disney land wrong?!
Every single popular ride was out of order due to "technical problems". Some people even got stuck in Big Thunder Mountain for 30-45 minutes.

I'm not trying to find an excuse for all those sad facts but generally employers know how to make you run out of motivation in France. I know you'll say that we have 5 weeks for holidays etc. However, I went in some other countries and the management mentality is so much different and so much more appealing.
That doesn't explains everything but it's part of the problem we have.
I'm personally looking forward to get my own business, but yet in France you have to pay taxes before even actually starting it...
I won't give up on it though.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-27 18:28:05
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Anyway if you go to France, I suggest you go to some other cities beside Paris : you can go to Bordeaux, Aix-en-Provence, Montpellier, Annecy, Strasbourg.
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By Cerberus.Leires 2014-08-27 18:49:47
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Anyway if you go to France, I suggest you go to some other cities beside Paris : you can go to Bordeaux, Aix-en-Provence, Montpellier, Annecy, Strasbourg.

Detzu!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-27 19:19:52
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Or, you can skip France entirely, and go somewhere nice like Holland, or Belgium, or Italy, or even Germany.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-28 06:13:19
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Or, you can skip France entirely, and go somewhere nice like Holland, or Belgium, or Italy, or even Germany.

Yeah France bashing, you do not even disappoint me. You did what was intended.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-28 06:14:58
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Cerberus.Leires said: »
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Anyway if you go to France, I suggest you go to some other cities beside Paris : you can go to Bordeaux, Aix-en-Provence, Montpellier, Annecy, Strasbourg.

Detzu!

Leires! When do you come on cerberus?! Been ages, i'd be happy to see you there.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
maldini said: »
Just got back from 3 week vacation in Europe and UK.

I used to be pro-france... but my last 6 trips there over the last decade have shown me just how bad socialism can be.

The country is a mess. There are no professionals in france. The quality of service has dropped every year.

Paris is in shambles. There are pick pockets at every tourist location. But that is nothing new.

What is new is the actual would-be-professionals trying to rip you off and asking for extra.

No ethics, no professionalism and Paris looks like a giant pigeon took a big nasty wet ***on it.

To truly experience the contrast, stay in London for a week, then go to Paris for a week, and then to any location in Germany.

France, wtf are you doing?! lol
Socialism at work. Did you honestly expect more?

You're so dumb KN, and I'm going to explain why.

You're implying socialists go to work.


Seriously though, Socialist institutions are a great way to "Enforce" a respectable minimum standard of living, but it's not a dynamic enough system to adjust to changing economic climates.

Though it's not like Capitalism is some sacred cow either. That tends to be the fundamental misunderstanding in dealing with things like Marxist theory. Being a Marxist doesn't necessarily mean you're pro-socialist, it just means you're willing to criticize the flaws of capitalism. All these issues seem to be just another example of absolutist mentality taking over, A or B, Yes or No.

A holdout attitude of our tribal past no doubt. Stick with the tribe consensus, simply it into it's most easily digested form. Critical thinking need not apply.

Do I give world leaders and humanity in general too much credit if I say that we (the collective) are more responsible for the state of the world than a handful of suits? I'm assuming these people are smart enough to not think in absolutes, but for every divergent opinion you add into the conversation you take that much longer to get your point across. Extrapolate that to a message you need to communicate to 320 Million people and.... yeah.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 07:10:30
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
maldini said: »
Just got back from 3 week vacation in Europe and UK.

I used to be pro-france... but my last 6 trips there over the last decade have shown me just how bad socialism can be.

The country is a mess. There are no professionals in france. The quality of service has dropped every year.

Paris is in shambles. There are pick pockets at every tourist location. But that is nothing new.

What is new is the actual would-be-professionals trying to rip you off and asking for extra.

No ethics, no professionalism and Paris looks like a giant pigeon took a big nasty wet ***on it.

To truly experience the contrast, stay in London for a week, then go to Paris for a week, and then to any location in Germany.

France, wtf are you doing?! lol
Socialism at work. Did you honestly expect more?

You're so dumb KN, and I'm going to explain why.

You're implying socialists go to work.


Seriously though, Socialist institutions are a great way to "Enforce" a respectable minimum standard of living, but it's not a dynamic enough system to adjust to changing economic climates.

Though it's not like Capitalism is some sacred cow either. That tends to be the fundamental misunderstanding in dealing with things like Marxist theory. Being a Marxist doesn't necessarily mean you're pro-socialist, it just means you're willing to criticize the flaws of capitalism. All these issues seem to be just another example of absolutist mentality taking over, A or B, Yes or No.

A holdout attitude of our tribal past no doubt. Stick with the tribe consensus, simply it into it's most easily digested form. Critical thinking need not apply.

Do I give world leaders and humanity in general too much credit if I say that we (the collective) are more responsible for the state of the world than a handful of suits? I'm assuming these people are smart enough to not think in absolutes, but for every divergent opinion you add into the conversation you take that much longer to get your point across. Extrapolate that to a message you need to communicate to 320 Million people and.... yeah.
You are correct that Socialism enforces a minimum standard of living to all of their citizens and pay for it through an outrageous tax, but you forget the negative aspect of that. Minimum standard of living to all of their citizens means a comfortable standard of living to all of their citizens, and if you have a comfortable standard of living just by existing, where is the incentive to have a better standard of living by working? Especially if the wages you earn, half of it or more goes straight to the state, and whatever you have left, doesn't increase your standard of living at all?

There would be no incentive to work in a socialist society, as France's economy proved it.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-28 07:17:32
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I was agreeing with you while being a snarky ***, sorry if that didn't translate correctly.

I've always said that Socialism is an economy of stagnation. But there's key societal pillars I think should be up for collective support. Defense, Education and Health.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-28 07:20:27
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I was agreeing with you while being a snarky ***, sorry if that didn't translate correctly.

I've always said that Socialism is an economy of stagnation. But there's key societal pillars I think should be up for collective support. Defense, Education and Health.
Only one of those 3 pillars is being properly supported currently.

For Education and Health, all our government is doing is throwing money at the problem at some traveling salesman and hope he doesn't run off with the money. Except that he does.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-28 07:28:11
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I was agreeing with you while being a snarky ***, sorry if that didn't translate correctly.

I've always said that Socialism is an economy of stagnation. But there's key societal pillars I think should be up for collective support. Defense, Education and Health.
Only one of those 3 pillars is being properly supported currently.

For Education and Health, all our government is doing is throwing money at the problem at some traveling salesman and hope he doesn't run off with the money. Except that he does.


Yeah, nobody's going to debate the system is collapsing into its own anus.

At times like this I wish I was Charles Xavier so I could tune into the kind of thoughts some of the people responsible have.

Also, I understand quite a bit more why the Anti-EU "Fascists" are gaining some traction in Europe.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-08-28 07:45:19
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When I saw that news my reaction was "it took them long enough".

Nothing special really, it happens pretty often but the funny and actual bad part is that there are two guys who aren't moving, and they're the one that we need to remove: the president and the prime minister.

The other guys are mere puppets, you could put any citizen and have the same ***done.

So basically, whatever happens now is merely an act. I'm hoping for Marine to win in 2017, she's our only hope.