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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-06-30 19:05:11
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'We Will Attack': Ukraine President Poroshenko Ends Cease-Fire

The Ukrainian president Monday night said he would not extend a unilateral cease-fire with pro-Russian separatists fighting in the eastern part of the country. "We will attack and we will liberate our land," President Petro Poroshenko said in a statement on his website.

The 10-day cease-fire expired Monday, but the militants had neither disarmed or relinquished control of border posts. Poroshenko had already extended the cease-fire from seven days.

The fragile truce was also violated repeatedly. Just hours into the agreement last week, militants shot down a helicopter killing nine people. In his statement late Monday, Poroshenko blamed the rebels' undermining actions for the non-renewal.

Earlier in the day, Poroshenko discussed the situation in a phone call with the leaders of Russia, Germany and France, saying the rebels had not "fulfilled the conditions." Russian President Vladimir Putin had stressed the need to extend the ceasefire in that conversation. Ukraine has accused Russia of supporting the insurgency by providing troops and weapons across the border.

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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-06-30 19:06:46
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what happened to the russia and ukraine thread?
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By fonewear 2014-06-30 19:08:47
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
what happened to the russia and ukraine thread?

It got "annexed" by this thread ?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-30 19:14:38
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Probably missing the whole picture here, but it seems like the Russian "insurgents" are just going to keep chipping away and taking over whatever they please until Ukraine actually starts a concerted military counter-attack on them. All this playing for time just gives the "Insurgents" time to consolidate their gains and "Recruit" more "Insurgents".
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-06-30 19:25:59
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-30 19:32:01
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »


You suck, I was literally in the process of making this same image macro with "Insurgents" inserted in.

Took the wind right out of my sails you did.

Instead I'll post a buzzkill video on how stupid all of this ***is in a different perspective:

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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-07-05 10:44:00
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Rebel Stronghold in East Ukraine Taken by Government Troops

A rebel stronghold in east Ukraine has been taken by government troops, the country's president and a spokesman for the rebels said Saturday. President Petro Poroshenko said in a statement that government troops took the city of Slovyansk, a city of about 100,000 that has been a center of the fighting between Kiev's troops and the pro-Russian insurgents, after a night of fighting. Poroshenko commanded the armed forces to "raise the government's flag" over Slovyansk, which has been under rebel control since early April.

Andrei Purgin of the separatist Donetsk People's Republic told The Associated Press that rebels were evacuating, but claimed the army's campaign had left the city "in ruins." Alexei, a driver and local Slovyansk resident who would not give his last name for fear of reprisal, told the AP by phone that he heard bombing throughout the night. When the bombing stopped in the early morning, he left his house and saw that all the rebel checkpoints were abandoned. A rebel commander who would only give his nom de guerre as Pinochet told the AP that rebels had relocated to the nearby town.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-05 11:17:17
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Ukrainians doing what they do best... Being completely irresponsibly crazy. No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-05 13:23:03
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America Cleanses Southeastern Ukraine of Ethnic Russians

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The Western news media have not been showing the footage of this action by the U.S. Administration, but U.S. news media also covered up the Administration’s constant lies about “Saddam’s WMD” (which the U.N. had quietly verified were completely destroyed in 1998), and so Americans supported invading Iraq on the basis of outright lies, and we did so: the U.S. is no longer an authentic democracy, which requires an honest press. America is now doing something that might be even more shocking than that — outright modeled upon the Hitler-movement. The present news report is being distributed to all U.S. news media, so that we’ll all get to see which U.S. media suppress this information, and which ones break the U.S. silence about it — the first-ever blatant ethnic-cleansing program carried out in any foreign country by U.S. Government agents or under U.S. control.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-07-12 10:41:29
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Fighter Jets and Missile Attacks: More Ukraine Violence Erupts

Ukraine scrambled jet fighters to strike at rebel positions early on Saturday, after separatists resumed missile attacks on government forces near the frontier with Russia, the border guard service said. In a night of violence in several areas of eastern Ukraine following a missile strike by separatists on Friday that killed at least 23 government servicemen, Ukrainian forces also used artillery to respond to rebel fire, the military said. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had pledged to "find and destroy" the pro-Russian rebels responsible for the missile attack at Zelenopillya, which also wounded nearly 100.

At least two more Ukrainian soldiers were killed and about 20 injured on Saturday in a mortar and missile bombardment by the rebels of army checkpoints at Dyakove and Nyzhnoderevechka near Luhansk, the government's "anti-terrorist" operation said. Luhansk, like the main industrial city of Donetsk, is controlled by pro-Russian separatists who set up 'people's republics' in Russian-speaking areas and declared a wish to join Russia in response to a pro-Western revolt in the capital Kiev.

Ukraine Releases Video of Pro-Russian Separatist’s Arrest
Putin Aide: Ukraine Has a 'Nazi' Government
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-07 07:18:12
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Oh look they're back to setting fire to the capital again.

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Tensions flared on Thursday on Kiev's Independence Square, the scene of street protests that toppled a Moscow-backed president in February, when protesters still camped there clashed with city workers who tried to clear away their tents.

The protesters set fire to heaps of tyres, sending clouds of black smoke billowing across the city center square, known as the Maidan, recalling the demonstrations earlier this year which chased Viktor Yanukovich from power.

Armed riot police moved onto the square as protesters - some of them in combat fatigues and masks and waving clubs - threw bottles and paving bricks at municipal workers who had been dispatched to dismantle the tents and barricades.

The police and workers eventually withdrew, leaving the situation unresolved.

Many protesters, including self-defense militias, have taken down their tents and returned to their homes since the election of Petro Poroshenko as president at the end of May.

But many barricades have remained in place, along with makeshift shrines to the 100 or so protesters killed by police sniper fire, and a few hundred people are still camped out on the Maidan.

"It's the right thing to do (take down the tents). I was here from the start of the Maidan and I believe it's right now to take down what there is here. There are practically no normal people left here," said Yury Kovalchuk, a 43-year-old businessman.

Ukraine's uprising began last November when Yanukovich walked away from a political and trade deal with the European Union and sought to swing policy back towards Russia. At its height, thousands of people from across Ukraine were camped out on the square and on an adjoining thoroughfare.

Kiev's new authorities have made clear they would like the capital city back to normal, with traffic moving freely, ahead of an expected parliamentary election at the end of October.

"It's like seeing everything that went on in winter coming back: tyres are burning, the police are here and so are people with clubs," said Vitaly Lyakh, a 37-year-old Kiev resident.

"It's not right - especially since the most decent people have gone off to fight in the war (against separatists in the east). Civilized countries don't behave like this," he said.

One protester wearing a Ukrainian cossack uniform, Mykola Bondar, declared his resistance to attempts to take down the encampment. A group of young masked protesters stood nearby atop a truck, banging on the roof of the vehicle with clubs.

"They tried to kill us today. They set fire to us," he said.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 07:28:52
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-07 07:49:22
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.
I would actually agree with you on that 2nd part, but then I might be lumped into that strange category of people who are called racists because they don't agree with Obama's policies.
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By fonewear 2014-08-07 07:56:14
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Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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By fonewear 2014-08-07 08:01:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.

According to Miss Teen USA 1 out of 5 people can't even find Ukraine on a world map !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:21:48
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fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.

According to Miss Teen USA 1 out of 5 people can't even find Ukraine on a world map !
She did a poll just before the pageant, asking her competitors if they know where Ukraine was on the world map.

Sad thing was, Miss Ukraine said no.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:22:24
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.
I would actually agree with you on that 2nd part, but then I might be lumped into that strange category of people who are called racists because they don't agree with Obama's policies.
You are automatically racist for not being a devote believer in the Church of Climate Science Gore.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-07 08:24:00
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fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.

According to Miss Teen USA 1 out of 5 people can't even find Ukraine on a world map !

Only because a lot of US Americans don't have maps.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:28:26
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
No wonder why America loves to support thier criminality.
Most Americans see this as an internal conflict and don't really give a ***about it.

The only ones who would, as you said, support their criminality, would be Obama's apologists, because whatever Obama says is law to them.

According to Miss Teen USA 1 out of 5 people can't even find Ukraine on a world map !

Only because a lot of US Americans don't have maps.
We have maps. Just around the state we live in.

National travelers like myself have an atlas of the entire US. Unless I plan on driving across Ukraine or even Asia, why should I buy a map of Asia?

(still can point to where Ukraine is on a map though)
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-07 08:35:28
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By fonewear 2014-08-07 08:36:57
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Hey I live in such places as The Iraq and everywhere such as !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:38:38
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Wait, is this real?

<doesn't watch ***like this>
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By fonewear 2014-08-07 08:41:13
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Wait, is this real?

<doesn't watch ***like this>

Very real and spectacular !

Side bar the Youtube comments are hilarious.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:48:54
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fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Wait, is this real?

<doesn't watch ***like this>

Very real and spectacular !

Side bar the Youtube comments are hilarious.

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Well, ***.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2014-08-07 08:50:17
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On behalf of America, I apologize for that video. And Fox News. :I
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By fonewear 2014-08-07 08:50:31
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Don't laugh she could be the next President. She is just as qualified as Hillary.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-07 08:52:35
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Bahamut.Mizuharu said: »
On behalf of America, I apologize for that video. And Fox News mainstream media. :I
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-08-09 10:34:24
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Ukraine troops surround Donetsk, rebel leader says



DONETSK, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian forces have seized a key town and are surrounding Donetsk, the largest insurgent-held city in eastern Ukraine, a top rebel commander said Saturday.

The statement by Igor Girkin, a former Russian special services officer, appeared to be a significant admission by the rebels that Ukrainian government forces are gaining the upper hand in the four-month-old fight.

He said the town of Krasnyi Luch, which lies on one of two main roads between Donetsk and the other rebel-held city of Luhansk, "has been taken by the enemy."

"The Donetsk-Horlivka group of the fighters of Novorossiya is completely surrounded," he said on a rebel social media page. Novosrossiya, or "New Russia," is a term widely used by the rebels for the eastern area that seeks independence from the government in Kiev. Horlivka, where rebels and Ukrainian forces are also fighting, is 30 kilometers (20 miles) north of Donetsk.

Seizing Krasnyi Luch would cut off many routes to other parts of the rebel-held east.

A spokesman for the Ukrainian military operation, Andriy Lysenko, told reporters Saturday that he could not confirm that the town was under government control.

In Donetsk, a city spokesman said at least one person was killed and several injured Saturday in shelling of the city's southern area. Spokesman Maxim Rovninsky also told The Associated Press that about 30 apartment blocks came under fire during the night.

The city, whose population was nearly 1 million before the fighting but has seen hundreds of thousands flee, has increasingly come under fire over the past weeks. Ukrainian officials deny that they are shelling civilians, as rebels claim, and say the rebels are putting rocket launchers in populated areas.

Explosions were also heard Saturday on the northern outskirts near Donetsk's airport.

Concerns are rising about a looming humanitarian catastrophe in Luhansk, where fighting has been heavier and more prolonged. A map released by the Ukrainian military shows Ukrainian forces near the outskirts of Luhansk on three sides, with an opening to other rebel-held territory only at the south.

Russian news agencies quoted Luhansk authorities as saying Saturday that the city has been without water and electricity for a week and most of its stores are closed.

Russia has been pushing for a humanitarian mission into Luhansk, but the Ukrainian government in Kiev and Western countries suspect that could be a pretext for sending in troops. Western countries say Russia has assembled some 20,000 troops just across the border.

The International Committee of the Red Cross said it is stepping up work to alleviate the crisis in eastern Ukraine but warned that any Red Cross aid convoy "will be taken in strict adherence to our fundamental working principles of neutrality, impartiality, and independence."

The deputy head of the Ukrainian presidential administration, Valeriy Chalyi, claimed Saturday that Russian forces wanted to enter Ukraine under the guise of a humanitarian mission but Ukraine had blocked the move.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov denied the claim, saying "there was no attempt by Russian soldiers at penetration," according to Russian news agencies. But he reiterated Russia's call for humanitarian action, saying "this catastrophe now is the No. 1 theme for discussion."

In Kiev, city workers and volunteers on Saturday removed the last of the barricades that had blocked the capital's main street since anti-government protests began in November.

Protesters had erected the barricades to protect a sprawling tent camp on the city's main square. Although the camp's size dwindled sharply after pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych fled the country in February and a new government came to power, a determined core of demonstrators remained.

Some tents were still visible Saturday. But Kiev mayor Vitali Klitschko, one of the leaders of the protests against Yanukovych, was quoted by Ukrainian media as saying an agreement had been reached with the protest holdouts to restore free movement in the city.

Several Kiev protest tents caught on fire later in the day but it was not clear why.

Yanukovych's ouster precipitated the crisis in Ukraine's east, which was his support base. Fighting began in April, after Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Ukraine's Russian-speaking Crimean Peninsula.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-09 11:40:44
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
MSNBC should hire this blonde to do their reporting, at least it would be mildly entertaining.
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