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Is "Swatting" the Newest Trend in Gaming?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-24 11:15:41
I can't help but feel that this inadvertently exposed the United States as a Police-State-In-The-Making. Or at the very least, our tendency for overreaction, some of these calls are bringing in sixty Special Task agents. I'm also particularly fond of some of the illegal search and seizures that happen too. They have no right to seize any of your property in these circumstances.
As a point of protection, I'll say that the whole "Traced I.P." bit is ***. This isn't Hackers, likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-04-24 11:33:29
Why would you ever have the idea to chase people with used syringes and where would you even get them? lol...
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By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 11:40:08
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-04-24 11:51:07
likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
thats a good point'
By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 11:52:06
likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
thats a good point' it's not that hard to make a lot of that crap hidden at least on FB, it's not like it's the days of myspace before they made you able to set accounts private, ya know?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-24 11:53:07
Why would you ever have the idea to chase people with used syringes and where would you even get them? lol...
This was during my poser phase.
Short version: Couple friends found some in an empty lot and decided to chase a student-teacher with one. Except the student teacher probably thought they were seriously going to jab him with it and decided to gtfo asap.
Everyone got written up and had to verbally apologize with parents present for that mess. Luckily, I managed to only score detention since I wasn't the one actually running with a needle moreso laughing and cheering this on.
Probably shook up the poor sap, he decided to do a quick career change. Can't say I blame him. Where ever you are student-teacher, I hope you're making more than 30k/yr thanks to our stupidity!
We've also had students call in bomb threats (which have to be taken seriously), people frequently drink alcohol junior/senior year in stairwells and release pet shop mice in classrooms. >_>
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-04-24 11:53:24
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-24 11:54:30
I'm convinced the cops are just giddy when they get to put on body armor, drive the APC and pull out the big guns. *** yeah!
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By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 11:55:17
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho... I'm more-so talking about their military weaponry and and the like, you know the stuff they get due to funding for the lolwarondrugs...
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-04-24 11:55:34
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Why would you ever have the idea to chase people with used syringes and where would you even get them? lol...
This was during my poser phase.
Short version: Couple friends found some in an empty lot and decided to chase a student-teacher with one. Except the student teacher probably thought they were seriously going to jab him with it and decided to gtfo asap.
Everyone got written up and had to verbally apologize with parents present for that mess. Luckily, I managed to only score detention since I wasn't the one actually running with a needle moreso laughing and cheering this on.
Probably shook up the poor sap, he decided to do a quick career change. Can't say I blame him. Where ever you are student-teacher, I hope you're making more than 30k/yr thanks to our stupidity!
We've also had students call in bomb threats (which have to be taken seriously), people frequently drink alcohol junior/senior year in stairwells and release pet shop mice in classrooms. >_>
Short story: Kids are little *****. Doesn't matter what generation.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-04-24 11:55:43
likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
thats a good point' it's not that hard to make a lot of that crap hidden at least on FB, it's not like it's the days of myspace before they made you able to set accounts private, ya know?
Thats going on the idea that these kids are smart enough to do this. If they are prank calling 911 on ppl over a video game.... then im not going to make that assumption. Hell, even those that are not or are on the receiving end... i still wouldn't assume that level of intelligence (sadly.)
By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 11:55:49
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I'm convinced the cops are just giddy when they get to put on body armor, drive the APC and pull out the big guns. *** yeah! around here, I'd bet on it.
bunch of rednecks.
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By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 11:57:06
likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
thats a good point' it's not that hard to make a lot of that crap hidden at least on FB, it's not like it's the days of myspace before they made you able to set accounts private, ya know?
Thats going on the idea that these kids are smart enough to do this. If they are prank calling 911 on ppl over a video game.... then im not going to make that assumption. Hell, even those that are not or are on the receiving end... i still wouldn't assume that level of intelligence (sadly.) Obviously I meant for the people on the receiving end.
It's their own fault for getting pranked if they make their information available. However obviously the level of pranking is ridiculous.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-04-24 11:58:33
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho... I'm more-so talking about their military weaponry and and the like, you know the stuff they get due to funding for the lolwarondrugs...
Actually most of the swat standards were changed due to that bank robbery I believe in LA where Police were completely outgunned and ended up having to go to gun shops in the area to get better weapons.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-24 12:04:10
The Killdozer was also another case of the cops totally being screwed by one man on a mission to destroy an entire town.
Luckily he snagged his vehicle on a basement.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-04-24 12:04:37
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho... I'm more-so talking about their military weaponry and and the like, you know the stuff they get due to funding for the lolwarondrugs...
Actually most of the swat standards were changed due to that bank robbery I believe in LA where Police were completely outgunned and ended up having to go to gun shops in the area to get better weapons.
Slightly off topic, but i could only imagine being the guy working the counter that day in the gun store and seeing a whole group of frantic police men storm in screaming they need to buy the best weapons available and NOW.
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By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 12:06:50
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho... I'm more-so talking about their military weaponry and and the like, you know the stuff they get due to funding for the lolwarondrugs...
Actually most of the swat standards were changed due to that bank robbery I believe in LA where Police were completely outgunned and ended up having to go to gun shops in the area to get better weapons.
Slightly off topic, but i could only imagine being the guy working the counter that day in the gun store and seeing a whole group of frantic police men storm in screaming they need to buy the best weapons available and NOW. I wonder how that would be handled, paperwork wise, since you know all of those regulations and all.
I guess they could have just confiscated them all, not sure how that would all work out: legally.
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By Lakshmi.Leosin 2014-04-24 12:07:37
Slightly off topic, but i could only imagine being the guy working the counter that day in the gun store and seeing a whole group of frantic police men storm in screaming they need to buy the best weapons available and NOW.
Clerks first impression: Zombie apocalypse inc.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-04-24 12:10:18
I'll say what I thought when I first read the article:
the average police force doesn't need swat teams, and they're a threat to public safety and a severe waste of tax payers' money.
It depends on the situation. Police only get basic training for the most part. Other forces are specially trained for specific circumstances that police are not trained for. Not to say they dont call swat in far to often tho... I'm more-so talking about their military weaponry and and the like, you know the stuff they get due to funding for the lolwarondrugs...
Actually most of the swat standards were changed due to that bank robbery I believe in LA where Police were completely outgunned and ended up having to go to gun shops in the area to get better weapons.
Slightly off topic, but i could only imagine being the guy working the counter that day in the gun store and seeing a whole group of frantic police men storm in screaming they need to buy the best weapons available and NOW. I wonder how that would be handled, paperwork wise, since you know all of those regulations and all.
I guess they could have just confiscated them all, not sure how that would all work out: legally.
They also ended up using an Armored Cash delivery truck from the bank because they didn't have anything that could hold up against the gunfire from the robbers while trying to move in to rescue the hostages.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2014-04-24 12:11:03
Celebrity "swatting" is actually pretty popular and common around here...
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2014-04-24 12:11:54
Actually most of the swat standards were changed due to that bank robbery I believe in LA where Police were completely outgunned and ended up having to go to gun shops in the area to get better weapons I know that was for the Street cops, don't know if it was for Special Weapons And Tactics teams tho.
Slightly off topic, but i could only imagine being the guy working the counter that day in the gun store and seeing a whole group of frantic police men storm in screaming they need to buy the best weapons available and NOW. The Simpsons scene where Homer is trying to buy a gun, has the shop modeled after that shop.
By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 12:12:00
lol, as they should, imo.
There's no justification for the level and cost of armament for every police force just because of rare incidents, call the national guard, they're not usually that far away.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-24 12:20:41
likely people have their Gamertag or Steam ID linked to their Facebook account, and all their personal information is right there ready to be exploited.
thats a good point' it's not that hard to make a lot of that crap hidden at least on FB, it's not like it's the days of myspace before they made you able to set accounts private, ya know?
Despite how prolific technology has become, few people still understand how to use it to their advantage.
I find Technology carries much the same philosophy as anything that has a danger outside moderation. Quoted from Christopher Hitchens: " Just make sure you get more out of it, than it gets out of you."
By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 12:21:50
Good policy to have, but as long as computers have been out now, there's really no excuse.
They're literally everywhere.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-24 12:27:58
Good policy to have, but as long as computers have been out now, there's really no excuse.
They're literally everywhere.
Is there any means in place to actually educate the new generation in net safety and privacy compliance? I believe, it should definitely be a mandatory Late Elementary/Primary school thing. Learning how to use the internet is right up there with learning how to read these days.
By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 12:32:37
Good policy to have, but as long as computers have been out now, there's really no excuse.
They're literally everywhere.
Is there any means in place to actually educate the new generation in net safety and privacy compliance? I believe, it should definitely be a mandatory Late Elementary/Primary school thing. Learning how to use the internet is right up there with learning how to read these days. I guess that depends on the area, I do know that they're throwing a lot of the PSA's on tv on at least Disney, but aside from that I'm not sure, I haven't been nor plan to have anything to do with the public school system for some time.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-24 12:33:28
PSA's, the only thing skipped faster on DVRs than commercials.
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By Jetackuu 2014-04-24 12:34:24
PSA's, the only thing skipped faster on DVRs than commercials. Keep forgetting that I am one of the few people who don't have a DVR, then again soon I won't have TV anymore as I'm taking the cable box back in.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-24 12:36:47
I love when legit CDs remind me not to pirate or those hilarious FBI warnings on old VCR tapes.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-04-24 12:37:13
Another reason you don't put your personal information online. Especially social sites.
Yet another crazy story has surfaced, but is it a trend?
Quote: "It’s a nationwide epidemic right now, where people play video games, and if you lose the video game, you try to develop information about the person you're playing, and then we send this army of police personnel out," Long Beach Police Commissioner Michael Tangney told CBS New York. "In this bizarre world of swatting, you get points for the helicopters, police cars, the SWAT team, and the type of entry. It’s very sophisticated, and unfortunately it's also very dangerous." Source
This particular story goes like this:
Quote: Police descended upon a Long Island home Tuesday believing a man had shot several relatives inside. It turned out the 911 call they were responding to was a hoax and part of a game called “Swatting” that law enforcement officials say has become a nationwide epidemic.
Police in Long Beach received the call around 3 p.m. from a man saying he had shot members of his family and was threatening to kill others on Laurelton Boulevard, CBS 2′s Carolyn Gusoff reported.
Nassau County, Long Beach and MTA police and an ambulance responded with their SWAT teams and hostage negotiators, but when police entered the home, they found everyone inside safe and unharmed.
The way it works apparently is like this:
Quote: A 17-year-old boy who was playing the video game “Call of Duty” inside the house was the apparent victim of the prank, Rincon reported. He had been playing against someone else online, police said.
In the game of Swatting, the losers of the video game get back at the winner by faking an emergency call from the winner’s house, Rincon reported.
“In this … bizarre world of Swatting, you get points for the helicopter, for the police cars, for the SWAT team, for the type of entry,” said Michael Tagney, Long Beach police commissioner. “It’s very sophisticated. Unfortunately, it’s very dangerous.”
Source
What they fail to mention is how the person calling the police verifies exactly how many police vehicles, car, etc. actually arrive if they could be from anywhere around the world.
Is this really a new trend? I have never heard of it until this story came out.
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