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 Shiva.Khimaira
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 00:26:39
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Im extremely bored. Any NMs MNK can solo that might be fun or at least kill time? Inb4 Tiger goes: Serket!!!-- I have the ToD, Ill be bored for a very long time if I go camp him right now.

Edit: (LS Community taking forever to update, MNK hit 75 like a day ago and already capped EXP)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-23 00:28:24
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Jailer of Fortitude
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By Lakshmi.Feifongwong 2010-05-23 00:28:29
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
Im extremely bored. Any NMs MNK can solo that might be fun or at least kill time? Inb4 Tiger goes: Serket!!!-- I have the ToD, Ill be bored for a very long time if I go camp him right now.

Edit: (LS Community taking forever to update, MNK hit 75 like a day ago and already capped EXP)

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

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By Virtuosus 2010-05-23 00:29:12
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lolGenbu
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 00:30:21
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Jailer of Fortitude

I was thinking that but I already have Torque so would be kind of pointless
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-23 00:31:36
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Jailer of Fortitude

I was thinking that but I already have Torque so would be kind of pointless
Sell it
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 00:33:22
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Jailer of Fortitude

I was thinking that but I already have Torque so would be kind of pointless
Sell it

Forty Torque is lulz :( Who would buy it!?
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-05-23 00:34:23
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Come help me get Faith Torque damn you!
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 00:36:34
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Come help me get Faith Torque damn you!

I`m on Shiva for the next 3+ months, you come help me help you get Faith Torque damn you!!!
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-05-23 00:38:36
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No dice.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 00:40:50
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Sylph.Oddin said:
No dice.

And look who has no Faith Torques because of it
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 00:52:24
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Come help me get Faith Torque damn you!

Gotta ask, you have full H2H merits, so what do you want Faith Torque for?
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By Virtuosus 2010-05-23 01:05:51
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Sylph.Vincentius said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Come help me get Faith Torque damn you!

Gotta ask, you have full H2H merits, so what do you want Faith Torque for?

Because 7 H2H Skill > 10 Acc. Plus E-peen.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 01:10:10
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Virtuosus said:
Sylph.Vincentius said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Come help me get Faith Torque damn you!

Gotta ask, you have full H2H merits, so what do you want Faith Torque for?

Because 7 H2H Skill > 10 Acc. Plus E-peen.
That, go.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:15:18
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And how does 7h2h skill > 10 acc might I ask?

It's 6~ accuracy and 7 attack. I have both, so I'm really curious as to how you're coming to this. I have my reason for using it, because I'm not fully merited in h2h, so it's giving me another base damage by using it. He's fully merited.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 01:16:39
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Sylph.Vincentius said:
And how does 7h2h skill > 10 acc might I ask?

It's 6~ accuracy and 7 attack. I have both, so I'm really curious as to how you're coming to this. I have my reason for using it, because I'm not fully merited in h2h, so it's giving me another base damage by using it. He's fully merited.

I think that its 6.3 acc, I cant remember but I think its like 1 skill = 0.9 Acc... I could be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off though, this was posted mainly looking for confirmation.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:19:04
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Either way, it's less ACC. The attack is good to take into account, but I still don't think Faith Torque is worth ***unless you get another base damage increase from it.

Of course, ***is -ALWAYS- situational. Capped ACC situations GO!

And yeah, I do believe you're right on the .9 acc per skill after 200.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-05-23 01:21:24
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http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/H2H

First couple paragraphs.
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By Virtuosus 2010-05-23 01:21:30
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I don't know about you, but I'd rather 6 accuracy/7 attack over 10 accuracy. If you're fighting something on MNK that has that much evasion that 4 accuracy is going to kill you that much, it's either Mamool or you probably shouldn't be fighting (at least meleeing) it on MNK.

Plus, Faith Torque looks alot nicer, and completes the look for any Career MNK out there. Not to mention, the 7 H2H skill may have bearing on breaking a damage tier in the future with new level caps coming. Doesn't hurt to have one whatsoever. To each his own though, I guess.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 01:22:53
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Sylph.Vincentius said:
Either way, it's less ACC. The attack is good to take into account, but I still don't think Faith Torque is worth ***unless you get another base damage increase from it.

Of course, ***is -ALWAYS- situational. Capped ACC situations GO!

And yeah, I do believe you're right on the .9 acc per skill after 200.

You don't get base damage increase from skill/attack if I remember correctly, that's just fSTR. Again, fishing, please someone confirm or deny?
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:25:25
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On monk you do get base damage upgrades from skill level. Let me run this math really fast.

Remember, monk is different from other jobs. Their h2h skill matters for base damage, whereas other jobs it doesn't.
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By Virtuosus 2010-05-23 01:25:56
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
You don't get base damage increase from skill/attack if I remember correctly, that's just fSTR. Again, fishing, please someone confirm or deny?

You do if it breaks a tier, so to speak. Currently, with capped H2H merits and Faith Torque, MNK75 is left at 299 Hand-to-Hand skill, 1 short of getting an extra 1 DMG applied to the base (bare-hands).
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By Virtuosus 2010-05-23 01:30:28
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"The damage of a hand-to-hand weapon is added to a character's natural hand-to-hand damage. A character's natural hand-to-hand damage is calculated by multiplying hand-to-hand skill by 0.11 and then adding 3." -Wiki

H2H Skill @75: 276 (No Merits)
Faith Torque: +7
Total: 283
276 * 0.11 = 30.36 + 3 = 33.36 > 33
283 * 0.11 = 31.13 + 3 = 34.13 > 34

I don't know how many merits Vincentius has, so I just did the math assuming no merits.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-23 01:30:41
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Shiva.Khimaira said:
Sylph.Vincentius said:
Either way, it's less ACC. The attack is good to take into account, but I still don't think Faith Torque is worth ***unless you get another base damage increase from it.

Of course, ***is -ALWAYS- situational. Capped ACC situations GO!

And yeah, I do believe you're right on the .9 acc per skill after 200.

You don't get base damage increase from skill/attack if I remember correctly, that's just fSTR. Again, fishing, please someone confirm or deny?
H2H is an exception; the formula is similar to skill tiers on BLU. With full merits you will not break a tier by adding Faith Torque, but this is subject to change with the level cap increase.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:31:21
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For me, I'm 4/8 H2H merits.

The calculation on Wiki to figure out your base damage is as such:

h2h skill X .11 + 3.

For an unmerited monk, it'd look like this:

276 x .11 = 30.36

30.36 + 3 = 33.36, rounded down is a base damage of 33.

For me on the other hand, I'm sitting at 284 from merits, 291 after Faith Torque. Calculating before and after torque is as such:

284 x .11 = 31.24

31.24 + 3 = 34.24

That's 34 base before torque.

After:

291 x .11 = 32.01

32.01 + 3 = 35.01

Or 35 base dmg. So, I do get a h2h base damage boost from wearing the torque.

Now let's calculate it for a fully merited monk at 299 skill with Faith Torque.

299 x .11 = 32.89

32.89 + 3 = 35.89

Rounded down, that's still 35 base damage. No increase other than the ACC/ATT from torque for a fully H2H merited monk.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:33:57
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I apologize for the mediocre wall of text there, just wanted to break it down for everyone.

Also, I just wanted to make sure that Oddin knew it's not a REALLY imperative upgrade unless he's looking to get the gil from PCC back for an Usukane upgrade or something. For a MNK without much or any Usukane though, I'd still recommend PCC.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2010-05-23 01:46:35
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Ty for clearing it up, I honestly just punch things and hope I'm facing the mob >.< Didn't think there was anything special about MNK (which is what I like about it lmao).
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-05-23 01:48:06
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Haha, well now you know.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-05-23 01:58:19
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Jailer of Fortitude

How would one go about doing this on mnk =0?

serious question sounds fun.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-23 01:59:31
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Asura.Karbuncle said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Jailer of Fortitude

How would one go about doing this on mnk =0?

serious question sounds fun.
Chi Blast and Hermes Sandals, a monkey could do it. (Pun not intended)
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