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 Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-06 17:37:24
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Should probably call that last page straw manning 101
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-06 17:45:56
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Should probably call that last page straw manning 101
Implies that it's college level
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-10-06 18:04:02
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eliroo said: »
stories of what Syrian refugess are known for particularly in Germany and Sweden

You mean the stuff they write on sites like Avpixlat and in the Sweden Democrat Facebook groups that don't actually take any facts into account and just assume?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-06 19:53:22
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Candlejack said: »
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... Pence only has to hold out for a month, after which he has the chance run his own campaign.
And I'd wish Pence well with his "own campaign". Unfortunately the people of Indiana remember all too well about how his bigot bill cost their state money and jobs.
The Donald has explicitly stated that he is just going to play president and let his VP actually run the country, domestic and foreign policy.

Pence has promised to do for the nation what he did for Indiana...
 
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By Odin.Slore 2016-10-06 20:17:30
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Candlejack said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
... Pence only has to hold out for a month, after which he has the chance run his own campaign.
And I'd wish Pence well with his "own campaign". Unfortunately the people of Indiana remember all too well about how his bigot bill cost their state money and jobs.
The Donald has explicitly stated that he is just going to play president and let his VP actually run the country, domestic and foreign policy.

Pence has promised to do for the nation what he did for Indiana...

Funny I follow him pretty good and have never heard any such thing. I think your bias is showing.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-10-06 21:23:41
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Odin.Slore said: »
Funny I follow him pretty good

Obviously not.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 00:31:24
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Cruz Missive avatar should be updated with this.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 05:48:02
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The Donald has explicitly stated that he is just going to play president and let his VP actually run the country, domestic and foreign policy.
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
Funny I follow him pretty good

Obviously not.
There's a simple way to settle this:

Show your source.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 08:21:01
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
There's actually a harsher term for people who base an entire culture based on negative perceptions.

The argument isn't about an entire culture but rather what their culture promotes.It isn't even about looking down on the refugees but rather understanding how their culture clashes with ours and how the american people will be effected. That is the basis for denying them refuge in the states.

You can't sit there and throw out names for every person that disagrees with you. You hardly ever take an ounce of effort to consider what your opposition is trying to point out, instead you take a singular stance and just start throwing out one liner insults when an actual argument is presented. My advice, don't choose to be ignorant. I may be stubborn but I will at least muse the ideas of the opposition and sometimes play devils advocate to help me understand a point better.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 08:28:41
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The Donald has explicitly stated that he is just going to play president and let his VP actually run the country, domestic and foreign policy.
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
Funny I follow him pretty good

Obviously not.
There's a simple way to settle this:

Show your source.


This would be the source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 08:35:59
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In more Clinton-damning news:

Gen. Mike Flynn: Why Hillary's record on Libya is even worse than you think

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A failed state, a terrorist haven, four dead Americans – this is the Hillary Clinton record in Libya we know about.

But new evidence -- and a review of the public record -- reveals that Hillary Clinton’s actions in Libya were not just disastrous policy, but a violation of U.S. anti-terrorism law.

A recent report to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the British House of Commons concluded that Western intervention in Libya was based on "inaccurate intelligence" and "erroneous assumptions." Advocates failed to recognize that “the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element," and the failure to plan for a post-Qaddafi Libya led to the "growth of ISIL" in North Africa.

However, “inaccurate intelligence” doesn’t fully describe the whole story. A closer examination of the run-up to the Libya debacle on September 11, 2012 leads to the irrefutable conclusion that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knowingly armed radical Islamist terrorists in Libya.

The American public was told that the intervention in Libya was necessary to prevent a humanitarian crisis. But just as Hillary Clinton would describe the attack on our Benghazi diplomats as a spontaneous protest over a video, the military intervention that led inexorably to the debacle in Benghazi was sold on false pretenses: to prevent an imminent massacre of civilians engaged in a pro-democracy uprising.

Hillary Clinton described the 2011 Arab Spring rebellion in eastern Libya as a spontaneous pro-democracy uprising, but the Libyan connection to radical Islamic extremist groups was well known long before 2011.

The region where the rebellion began was a fervid recruiting ground for jihadis who killed American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The leaders of the “civilian uprising” that Hillary Clinton supported were members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) who had pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda. They refused to take orders from non-Islamist commanders and assassinated the then leader of the rebel army, Abdel Fattah Younes.

The LIFG had been jailed under Qaddafi until hundreds of their members were released through a de-radicalization program. That program was spearheaded by an exiled Muslim Brotherhood affiliated Libyan cleric based in Qatar named Ali al-Sallabi. The jihadis pledged they would never use violence against Gaddafi again.

But nearly as soon as the LIFG was released they took up arms against the Qaddafi regime.

Just as there was ample evidence that Hillary’s “pro-democracy protestors” were radical Islamists, there was no truth to the assertion a civilian massacre was imminent.

Libyan doctors told United Nations investigators that, of the more than 200 corpses in Tripoli’s morgues following fighting in late February 2011, only two were female. This indicates Qaddafi’s forces targeted male combatants and did not indiscriminately attack civilians. Nor had Qaddafi forces attacked civilians after retaking towns from the rebels in early February 2011.

While Muammar Qaddafi had a 40-year record of appalling human rights violations, his abuses did not include large-scale attacks on Libyan civilians. We restored full diplomatic relations with Qaddafi in 2007 and he was a key partner in counter-terrorism efforts.

LIFG and affiliated jihadis received at least 18 shipments of arms from Qatar with the blessing of the U.S., the Wall Street Journal reports. The arms shipments were funneled through none other than Ali al-Sallabi, the Qatar cleric who brokered their release from prison.

The Islamists were able to pay for the weapons because Clinton had convinced Obama to grant full diplomatic recognition to the rebels, against the advice of State Department lawyers and the Secretary of Defense.

As the Washington Post reported, this move “allowed the Libyans access to billions of dollars from Qaddafi’s frozen accounts.”

These arms shipments are significant for several reasons. It led to the indictment of American arms dealer Marc Turi who was charged with selling weapons to Islamist militants in Libya through Qatar. The charges were dropped this week after Turi threatened to reveal emails showing Clinton had approved the sales.

Here’s where it gets very sticky for Secretary Clinton. The rebel leaders were on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization list. It is a direct violation of the law to provide material support for terrorist organizations under 18 U.S. Code 2339A & 2339B. Penalties for providing or attempting to provide material support to terrorism include imprisonment from 15 years to life.

Nor is the Qatar connection insignificant. Qatar has donated anywhere from $1 to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, and emails reveal members of the Qatari royal family were privileged with back channel meetings with Secretary Clinton at the State Department. While whipping up support for the Libya military campaign, Clinton told Arab leaders, “it’s important to me personally,” the Washington Post reported.

Hillary Clinton’s prosecution of foreign policy in Libya crossed several lines: she showed extremely bad judgment by ignoring military and intelligence officials, she let personal interests conflict with U.S. foreign policy and, most importantly, she may have broken the law -- again.

Any one of these transgressions should disqualify her from holding any kind of leadership role in our government, let alone president of the United States. The last one qualifies Hillary Clinton for government housing, though not in the White House.

Don't worry, Clinton apologists, there won't be an investigation (which would lead to prosecution) to these allegations, so your candidate is safe from breaking the law again.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 08:41:40
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Here’s where it gets very sticky for Secretary Clinton. The rebel leaders were on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization list. It is a direct violation of the law to provide material support for terrorist organizations under 18 U.S. Code 2339A & 2339B. Penalties for providing or attempting to provide material support to terrorism include imprisonment from 15 years to life.


This has to be the most sexist thing I have read in my life. Clinton is just a woman and it happens to be her turn, I won't take any data from this article and completely dismiss its existant. Clinton is an exemplary example of an upstanding citizen, she is the salt of the earth. She could never do anything wrong. This article is wrong, even though it mentions stuff that is above head with detailed information.

Total BS.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 09:34:30
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It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 09:36:33
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...
Because you are predictable.

Don't worry, we all know you are going to troll for a couple of hours then come back in about a week or so.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 09:37:29
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...

I will sleep well tonight knowing that Flavin thinks I'm cute.

>*^.^*< Teehee~
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-07 09:38:36
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...

It's cute how you don't understand what satire is.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 09:43:06
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...
Because you are predictable.

Don't worry, we all know you are going to troll for a couple of hours then come back in about a week or so.
The only person that's predictable here is you... You pretty much bait after every article you post... You end it with your own little beware libtard dbags incoming to defend their queen and savior!!! its always an amusing read and you can always see your sad attempt at the follow up coming too...

i mean you still treat me like a Hillary supporter even though I've said I'm not and publicly hoped for her demise as you rascally republicans flail your arms at anything you can to try and discredit her... It's not really that hard wish you could get the job done though... Get a better candidate in there...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 09:44:40
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...

It's cute how you don't understand what satire is.
kn posting the same old thing after every attack article on Hillary? That's satire? This is news to me!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 09:46:24
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...
Because you are predictable.

Don't worry, we all know you are going to troll for a couple of hours then come back in about a week or so.
Also, some of us don't have the copious amounts of time devoted to posting here that you do lol... You know other things to do and all... I always did think cfos at companies actually worked while they were there... Hmmm... Guess not...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 09:59:29
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
You end it with your own little beware libtard dbags incoming to defend their queen and savior!!!
A) I'm not like you and a certain cigar smoker who throws out insults on a daily basis in their posts.

B) The articles I do post, I doubt that fewer than 5 of those articles have anything even close to what you are saying. My real guess is 3.

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
its always an amusing read and you can always see your sad attempt at the follow up coming too...
You mean like yours where you post 3 posts in a row, and of which, two of them were in direct response to me?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
i mean you still treat me like a Hillary supporter even though I've said I'm not
Can you please tell the teacher where he touched you on this doll show us where any of my posts prior to your arrival here was directed or even mentioned you? The obvious Clinton supporters/appologizer on this website are Vic, Pleebo, a certain person I'm not even allowed to name because his feels get hurt, and half of Ramy. You are just a closet supporter, because even though you publicly denounced her, you have shared nearly all of her viewpoints (publicly too), including her attacks on Trump, even the debunked and idiotic attacks on him.

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
rascally republicans flail your arms at anything you can to try and discredit her
Trust me, if it was Trump who had all the baggage Clinton has, we would never hear the end of it.

Instead, what we get is what Trump may have said 20 years ago, what Trump may have said to a 3rd party who then told another 3rd party who may have mentioned it to another 3rd party who revealed it to CNN, and Trump having a loss and claiming a legal and available tax deduction to everyone, including the Clintons who used the same deduction on their tax returns and carrying it forward for possible 15 years (and back 3 years).

Can't really attack him on his policies, because even some Republicans agree with you, but we all know he won't do it.

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Also, some of us don't have the copious amounts of time devoted to posting here that you do lol... You know other things to do and all... I always did think cfos at companies actually worked while they were there... Hmmm... Guess not...
I'm glad you remember my job position, you apparently care about me enough to remember it from a year and a half ago. It makes me feel so proud that I'm constantly on your mind at all times, it brings a tear in my eyes.
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By Ruaumoko 2016-10-07 10:04:19
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In EU news.

Two UKIP members brawl in the halls of the European Parliament, resulting in one man called Mike Hookem (can't make this ***up) knocking his colleague Steven Woolfe out cold.

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-10-07 10:16:07
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Ruaumoko said: »
In EU news.

Two UKIP members brawl in the halls of the European Parliament, resulting in one man called Mike Hookem (can't make this ***up) knocking his colleague Steven Woolfe out cold.

you forgot to imply how everyone would react to this news with broad generalizations and name calling...

haven't you read the rules!?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 10:22:21
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
haven't you read the rules!?
Does anyone?
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 10:26:43
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I always did think cfos at companies actually worked while they were there... Hmmm... Guess not...


You would be correct CFOs don't do a whole lot most of the time. They are more of a position with responsibility as opposed to work. When it matters though they have to do a shitton of work.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 10:29:27
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You can't remember simple things from a year and a half ago KN? Maybe your mind has gone soft... Doesn't seem to be that unreasonable to remember something you push on the general forum population lol...

If you dont think you insult people then we'll I guess everyone has their own opinion on what that could be but man you'd have to stretch a long way to make the argument that you don't... Pretty amusing though...

So you deny saying I was a supporter of hers then in the same breath accuse me of bent her supporter...I don't even have the words to respond to how dumb that just was... Besides the point that I don't support all the same views and even if I did does not mean I'm a closet supporter as sharing the same viewpoints as someone does not mean your out them forward for anything for a number of different reasons...

Trump has a ton of baggage... And you do hear about it all the time.. It's one of the complaints that conservatives level often enough that MSM works for Hillary and tries to slam trump wherever he goes... The only thing that trump doesn't have is any baggage from political office as he hasn't held political office...

I'm so tired of people from every side claiming this ***too... claiming to be the victim here is laughable at best... both of em make these excuses and their supporters tell us how unfair it is... It's pathetic... Stop making *** excuses all the time and go out and do the right thing... Thatd be too hard though...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-07 10:30:07
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It is cute how you guys start attacking people or mocking them before a response is even posted...

It's cute how you don't understand what satire is.
kn posting the same old thing after every attack article on Hillary? That's satire? This is news to me!

It has more to do with your tendency to not specify who you're responding to. This reply makes it seems like you made a comment directed at King long after Eliroo posted, but you used the term "you guys" and your writing style is fairly ambiguous.

The quote function is your friend.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 10:42:40
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eliroo said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I always did think cfos at companies actually worked while they were there... Hmmm... Guess not...


You would be correct CFOs don't do a whole lot most of the time. They are more of a position with responsibility as opposed to work. When it matters though they have to do a shitton of work.
Actually, my CFO stint was cut short due to an accident that happened last October.

That accident actually sent me to the hospital for a month and a half and requires a lot of reconstruction surgeries, of which I still have about a year to go on them, depending on how well/fast I heal between them. I'm basically retired now.

This was mentioned last year though. I don't expect people (except Flavin, apparently) to remember such events, but this is just a little jab at me about my posting and my reported job.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-07 10:46:23
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Odin.Slore said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Candlejack said: »
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Pence has promised to do for the nation what he did for Indiana...
Funny I follow him pretty good and have never heard any such thing. I think your bias is showing.
You must "follow" about as well as you use the English language.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 10:46:57
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eliroo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The Donald has explicitly stated that he is just going to play president and let his VP actually run the country, domestic and foreign policy.
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
Funny I follow him pretty good

Obviously not.
There's a simple way to settle this:

Show your source.


This would be the source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/

Two sources: Donald Trump Jr with Kaisch but Trump campaign denies the interaction occurred and then Paul Manafort in an interview with HuffPost that Trump wants to let VP oversee domestic and foreign policy while Trump acts more as a "brand" I.e PoTUS in name only.
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