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Random Politics & Religion #00
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 14:52:34
The article was written by a woman so you know it is illogical !
Newsflash if you want to work in an abortion clinic: You are going to be harassed daily. No one forced you to work there.
And why should you be harassed? Continue.
By fonewear 2015-06-11 14:55:01
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »The article was written by a woman so you know it is illogical !
Newsflash if you want to work in an abortion clinic: You are going to be harassed daily. No one forced you to work there.
And why should you be harassed? Continue.
Why should anything happen ! I'm not going to write a dissertation on feels. Some people feel more than other people.
By Ramyrez 2015-06-11 15:04:00
By Ramyrez 2015-06-11 15:06:48
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »The article was written by a woman so you know it is illogical !
Newsflash if you want to work in an abortion clinic: You are going to be harassed daily. No one forced you to work there.
And why should you be harassed? Continue.
People doing the harassing are scumbags.
But at the same time, I feel like working at a place like that you're volunteering to help people through those douchebags. Their behavior is reprehensible, but dealing with it is sort of generally accepted as part of your job.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:08:55
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
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By fonewear 2015-06-11 15:09:18
So harassing people is worse than killing unborn babies. Got it !
I think people can live with harassment...the babies they didn't have a chance...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:15:32
Think about the children!
Until they're born, then *** em. Little ***.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-11 15:18:24
So harassing people is worse than killing unborn babies. Got it !
I think people can live with harassment...the babies they didn't have a chance...
If I thought you were being anything but intentionally inflammatory, I'd give you more of a response, but you're just poking embers now. A professional firebug knows another firebug when he sees one.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-11 15:18:38
So harassing people is worse than killing unborn babies. Got it ! Except that your opinion is neither supported by the law or science. Abortions are not seen as killing an unborn child. You might like to look at it that way as I do but yeah...
Pro-life argument always falls apart when you make exceptions too. The unborn baby only matters if the mother wasn't raped! The unborn baby only matters when the mother's life isn't at risk! etc.
How can you make an argument for an unborn life then turn around and say well I'm ok with letting you kill an unborn child under specific circumstances. Did the unborn baby suddenly become evil and worth exterminating at that point?
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-11 15:20:03
Also, I note that there aren't many protests of urologists' offices...huh. Where's the outrage over the vasectomies!? That's BILLIONS of potential babies!
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-11 15:20:28
"I'm not racist, but get these black people away from me, please."
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:20:59
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either.
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Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-11 15:22:46
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either. How so? performing a legal medical operation should somehow lead to consequences?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:22:55
Meanwhile:
http://time.com/3917455/reddit-bans-groups/
Quote: Reddit Bans Groups Over Harassment, Raising Questions Of Censorship
Quote: Online forum Reddit said Wednesday that it has banned five groups dedicated to ridiculing gays, the obese and blacks as part of an effort to curb some of the abuse that the site has notoriously attracted in the past.
The ban, announced on the site by CEO Ellen Pao and other executives, comes as Reddit wrestles with how to make the site more mainstream while also preserving the free-wheeling community discussions that have made it popular.
The banned groups, known as sub-reddits, include two dedicated to criticizing fat people as well as three other forums where people attacked blacks, gays, or transgender people. The most popular of the five appears to have been r/fatpeoplehat, which Reddit says had more than 5,000 members.
Some Reddit members reacted angrily by accusing the site of heavy-handed and arbitrary decision-making. In a comment just below the announcement of the ban, a member posted a list of other groups dedicated to abusive and taboo topics that remained up. Fellow members responded with substantial support, or “upvotes” in Reddit lingo. Meanwhile, right wing news sites accused Reddit and its CEO of censorship.
Reddit founder Alexis Ohanian, a well-known figure in the tech world, defended the site’s decision. In a post on Twitter, he pointed to a comment by another Reddit member to explain when harassment becomes unacceptable.
“When we are using the word “harass”, we’re not talking about “being annoying” or vote manipulation or anything,” the comment said. “We’re talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day.”
Law professor James Grimmelmann, who writes frequently on Internet issues, observed on Twitter that the decision marked a move away from Reddit’s original commitment to unfettered free speech. But he noted the problem of harassment also presented a philosophic challenge.
Wednesday isn’t the first time Reddit has banned groups for violating abuse guidelines. Last year, after a public outcry over hackers posting private nude photographs of celebrities, Reddit shut down a forum called “the fappening” where many of the images appeared.
Reddit may also be under pressure to combat abuse after the site raised $50 million in funding last year from high-profile venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz and others. The investors will eventually expect the site, which is independent operated, but owned by the same holding company as magazine giant Conde Nast, to attract more mainstream advertisers that would otherwise shy away from being associated with harassment.
tl;dr
Reddit is well known as a relatively free-wheeling website. Everything from philosophy to watching people die to (poke)porn dominates the site.
Reddit wants to be more palatable to advertisers.
Reddit bans r/fatpeoplehate and a number of other subreddits, cites harassment based subreddits will no longer be allowed.
Censorship? or a company exercising its ability to moderate as it sees fit?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:24:53
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either.
No ***.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:25:14
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either. How so? performing a legal medical operation should somehow lead to consequences?
Should is relative. People protest legal things all the time, so you might as well get used to it.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-11 15:27:05
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either. How so? performing a legal medical operation should somehow lead to consequences?
Should is relative. People protest legal things all the time, so you might as well get used to it. So basically what your saying is that nothing is free from consequence in general?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-06-11 15:27:27
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Censorship? or a company exercising its ability to moderate as it sees fit? You sure won't see me praising fat people, and I don't know how consistent the banning has been, but I think any thread that incites hate and violence should always be erased.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:28:19
Also, I note that there aren't many protests of urologists' offices...huh. Where's the outrage over the vasectomies!? That's BILLIONS of potential babies!
If this happens my counter protest will be to masturbate in front of those protesters,.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:30:00
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either. How so? performing a legal medical operation should somehow lead to consequences?
Should is relative. People protest legal things all the time, so you might as well get used to it. So basically what your saying is that nothing is free from consequence in general?
That's oversimplifying, but sure, whatever.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:32:12
Also, I note that there aren't many protests of urologists' offices...huh. Where's the outrage over the vasectomies!? That's BILLIONS of potential babies!
Nobody's protesting oophorectomies either, so you may be missing the point.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-11 15:33:14
I learned a worrrrrrrrrrd.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-11 15:37:19
So this is the video I watched from a local Fox news channel in Dallas-Fort Worth.
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According to the kid who filmed the incident, the racist remark was: "Go back to section 8 housing."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-11 15:39:10
This case yes. It's blatantly obvious.
As far the women who worked at the bank or whatever it was, her comment was "Go back to section 8 housing."
But that's from the kid who shot the video on the MSM.
By fonewear 2015-06-11 15:42:18
What's wrong with section 8 housing. People need houses !
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:46:28
I don't understand the insult. Sector 8 housing doesn't look that bad to me.
By fonewear 2015-06-11 15:47:51
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Working at an abortion clinic does not mean freedom from consequences either. How so? performing a legal medical operation should somehow lead to consequences?
Should is relative. People protest legal things all the time, so you might as well get used to it. So basically what your saying is that nothing is free from consequence in general?
That's oversimplifying, but sure, whatever.
This could be a Philosophical question. Compatiblism vs. incompatiblism
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-11 15:48:24
I don't think we need to address cannibalism, Fone.
By fonewear 2015-06-11 15:50:09
I don't think we need to address cannibalism, Fone.
Well we could ! I'd eat a woman if you put enough BBQ sauce on her. Feminists seem to people multiplying at an alarming rate. Could weed out the herd.
I wonder if a vegetarian would chose to die from starvation or eat a person to live !
And the internet never disappoints me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_Cannibal
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