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Random Politics & Religion #00
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-19 10:40:50
Is anyone actually in favor of taking away peoples voting rights? Obama is.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-19 10:42:04
I think the discussion is Brazilian voting but I could be wrong. Sounds like a new Lifetime show.
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By fonewear 2015-03-19 10:42:21
I can summarize government in one phrase:
"Can't someone else do it ?"
By Bloodrose 2015-03-19 10:43:08
So are the republicans.
Well, every politician is, really. Since they only want the people to vote for them. And only them. Not even for their other party members.
So there *is* a chance Lordgrim could become supreme ruler or "Fearless Leader"... Rocky and Bullwinkle style.
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By fonewear 2015-03-19 10:44:43
I suggest we revert back to the Whig party. But mainly just wear wigs !
Picture unrelated !
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Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-19 10:47:38
You can't possibly believe that.
Are you being serious or trolling? Again, I have a hard time telling.
Do you have any idea how much white trash there is that buys into Republicans' ***, despite the fact they benefit the least from said ***?
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-19 10:48:32
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Is anyone actually in favor of taking away peoples voting rights?
When you put it like that, no.
Sure, we already have several classes of people who can't vote, it's not like there's no accepted justification for them either. I think less people should vote, for instance, if you can't show ID to prove who you are, you should be forbidden to vote.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-19 10:50:16
You can't possibly believe that.
Are you being serious or trolling? Again, I have a hard time telling.
Do you have any idea how much white trash there is that buys into Republicans' ***, despite the fact they benefit the least from said ***? I assure you there's way more people out there who would vote for Hil-dog simply because she has a vagina, than these "gulible repubs' you seem to think are everywhere
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-19 10:51:45
The U.S. won't be able to handle another Democrat for President. It's barely chugging along with the current.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-19 10:52:07
So are the republicans.
Well, every politician is, really. Since they only want the people to vote for them. And only them. Not even for their other party members.
So there *is* a chance Lordgrim could become supreme ruler or "Fearless Leader"... Rocky and Bullwinkle style.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 10:52:48
I have no problem with mandatory voting or some form of it. Half the country doesn't vote. Thats roughly 155+ million people that can vote but don't. Make them get out there and vote. Increase the amount of days our elections last (that would probably be required) to give people more opportunity to vote. Don't buy into nausi's fearmongering (not that anyone is).
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By fonewear 2015-03-19 10:52:56
The order of our system is Republican 2 terms Dem 2 terms repeat...forever !
Then you get some guy name Ross Perot trying to finish ! Let him finish damn it !
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-19 10:53:45
I assure you there's way more people out there who would vote for Hil-dog simply because she has a vagina, than these "gulible repubs' you seem to think are everywhere
This could be a difference of perspective and anecdotal experiences, so I'm just going to let this one go and let you believe what you'd like because neither of us can "proove" anything here.
But in my experience and people I've dealt with directly, far more people will vote Republican for the "family/religious values" and other "conservative" beliefs without having any actual idea what helps them directly or not.
I know people who are on welfare, disability, and public housing who vote Republican because they think that Obama and his ilk are trying to take aware their benefits.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-19 10:54:03
I have no problem with mandatory voting or some form of it. Half the country doesn't vote. Thats roughly 155+ million people that can vote but don't. Make them get out there and vote. Increase the amount of days our elections last (that would probably be required) to give people more opportunity to vote. Don't buy into nausi's fearmongering (not that anyone is). Of course you don't mind forcing people into a decision they may or may not want to do. I mean, you are a full supporter of ACA....
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 10:54:17
The U.S. won't be able to handle another Democrat for President. It's barely chugging along with the current.
Oh yeah, because the last Republican did so well.
We are doing just fine thanks tho.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-19 10:54:56
So Vic, how are those kneepads treating you? Looks like you got a lot of wear from it, you should probably get a new set.
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By fonewear 2015-03-19 10:55:27
Ross Perot is still alive
Perot 2016 !
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 10:55:55
Of course you don't mind forcing people into a decision they may or may not want to do. I mean, you are a full supporter of ACA....
You just oppose it because it was Obama's idea.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 10:56:29
So Vic, how are those kneepads treating you? Looks like you got a lot of wear from it, you should probably get a new set.
/yawn. Is that all you got?
By fonewear 2015-03-19 10:56:50
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-19 10:57:13
Of course you don't mind forcing people into a decision they may or may not want to do. I mean, you are a full supporter of ACA....
You just oppose it because it was Obama's idea. No, I would have opposed it regardless of the idiot who proposed it.
I rather have the freedom to choose, thank you very much.
For those who denied that Obama was willing to take that away back in 2010, how do you plea now?
By Bloodrose 2015-03-19 10:57:16
So Vic, how are those kneepads treating you? Looks like you got a lot of wear from it, you should probably get a new set. Sounding an awful lot like LordNausiGrim there.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-19 10:57:33
So the people who don't vote as a sign of protest to the current system, what, they just don't get to express their political speech?
I always knew Obama didn't believe in the first amendment.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 10:58:55
So Vic, how are those kneepads treating you? Looks like you got a lot of wear from it, you should probably get a new set. Sounding an awful lot like LordNausiGrim there.
Don't forget altima.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-19 10:59:24
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 11:01:08
So the people who don't vote as a sign of protest to the current system, what, they just don't get to express their political speech?
I always knew Obama didn't believe in the first amendment.
Go to the ballot and fill out the choice that says "I choose not to vote." Done!
By fonewear 2015-03-19 11:01:18
Obama told me this is for FFXI !
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-19 11:02:43
So the people who don't vote as a sign of protest to the current system, what, they just don't get to express their political speech?
I always knew Obama didn't believe in the first amendment.
Go to the ballot and fill out the choice that says "I choose not to vote." Done!
Or vote for Alfred E. Neuman.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-19 11:04:05
It was a question... So what did you mean then when you said that his attitudes towards Bibi are pretty good indicators of his priorities then?
A few examples of Obama's dislike for Israel.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-19 11:05:19
Yeah, because you are so pro-Israel nausi. You don't know anything about it.
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