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Random Politics & Religion #00
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-01-20 08:56:10
It is very stupid to be poking Japan, they don't seek out conflict but they are more than capable of bringing it when they need to.
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By charlo999 2015-01-20 08:57:28
Yawn. More fake propaganda beheading videos.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 09:01:41
Wait, did you just say that those beheading videos are fake?
By charlo999 2015-01-20 09:09:00
The ISIS ones with the British terrorist that were 'found' by Mossad.
Where he is cutting at his neck no blood comes out then it blacks out. Then reappears with what looks like crappy B movie effects.
Then yes I guess I am.
This extremely violent supposed ISIS posts videos of terror but purposely doesn't show the violent act. Because why? There scared of upsetting the people they are trying to terrorise.
But who would ever discredit something like that let alone watch it, right.
I only, against my will forced myself too after seeing a lot of others describe it. And watched with my finger on stop.
It was ridiculas.
And in a more logical note. Who in there right mind would incite the west( biggest armed forces in the world) who recently are eager to send the war machine and historically never accepts demands.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-01-20 09:15:55
Hey charlo can you do me a favor and stop posting right now before I find myself on the same side as KN? Kthxgtfo.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 09:16:12
Who in there right mind would incite the west( biggest armed forces in the world) who recently are eager to send the war machine and historically never accepts demands. Maybe other countries, but not the US.
Obama will never start a foreign conflict, nor would he actually engage in a foreign conflict, as long as he is president.
Want proof in these statements? Syria and Russia. They have both openly defied Obama and pretty much got away with it.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-01-20 09:19:35
I remember when republicans criticized him endlessly for not going into Libya.
And when he went into Libya, they criticized him endlessly.
On an unrelated matter, directed at a Muslim group in Texas:
By charlo999 2015-01-20 09:21:34
Who in there right mind would incite the west( biggest armed forces in the world) who recently are eager to send the war machine and historically never accepts demands. Maybe other countries, but not the US.
Obama will never start a foreign conflict, nor would he actually engage in a foreign conflict, as long as he is president.
Want proof in these statements? Syria and Russia. They have both openly defied Obama and pretty much got away with it.

It basically just Russia.
Syria has defence agreements with Iran who in turn is backed by Russia. Who in turn are close with china.
So there's a reason.china and Russia are extremely powerful.
So as you saw in crimera. The same sort of standoff like the Cuban missile crisis.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 09:24:15
Who in there right mind would incite the west( biggest armed forces in the world) who recently are eager to send the war machine and historically never accepts demands. Maybe other countries, but not the US.
Obama will never start a foreign conflict, nor would he actually engage in a foreign conflict, as long as he is president.
Want proof in these statements? Syria and Russia. They have both openly defied Obama and pretty much got away with it.

It basically just Russia.
Syria has defence agreements with Iran who in turn is backed by Russia. Who in turn are close with china.
So there's a reason.china and Russia are extremely powerful.
So as you saw in crimera. The same sort of standoff like the Cuban missile crisis. Still proves my point.
However, where are these videos of yours you say is fake?
By Pantafernando 2015-01-20 09:26:28
Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-01-20 09:31:21
And sometimes, we give them arms in exchange for hostages.
By charlo999 2015-01-20 09:31:57
What's your point?
That the US doesn't want to publicly start WW3.
I'm supposed to be impressed by that?
And do your own research. Told you which ones.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 09:36:47
You made the statement that those beheading videos are fake. You went further to say that the west (aka by extension, the US, by your "strongest military" comment) would retaliate. I pointed out your error.
And do your own research. Told you
Which. You made the statement. Why should I do "research" to prove you right?
By charlo999 2015-01-20 09:39:16
You went further to say that the west (aka by extension, the US, by your "strongest military" comment) would retaliate. I pointed out your error
So they didn't retaliate with a huge ongoing air strike campaign, while they intentionally arm opposing factions on the ground?
Isn't that how Iraq and Afghanistan started.
Only this time people are more weary about sending troops because of those wars. Public support is low.
Until stuff like Paris happens.
By Jetackuu 2015-01-20 09:40:16
Oh it's this discussion again, /pulls up a chair.
Chaos, where's my whiskey?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 09:45:20
So they didn't retaliate with a huge ongoing air strike campaign, while they intentionally arm opposing factions on the ground?
Isn't that how Iraq and Afghanistan started.
Only this time people are more weary about sending troops because of those wars. Public support is low.
Until stuff like Paris happens. You are not making any sense anymore.
Take your meds, you need them badly.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 10:02:26
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 10:03:15
His whole argument? He is going all over the place....
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 10:06:33
His whole argument? He is going all over the place....
nah, Idk wtf you two were talking about prior, but all of that post made sense.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-01-20 10:09:19
Those beheading videos were a fake? That's good to know, I'm sure the victims will be turning up any day now.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 10:10:08
lol, Ok, I back read, you two are all over the place.
looks to be:
fake beheading videos, & Obama's a coward for not kicking off WW3.
I like it.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-01-20 10:11:16
His whole argument? He is going all over the place....
nah, Idk wtf you two were talking about prior, but all of that post made sense.
Yep, one has to be fairly obtuse or ignorant of US arms dealings in the Iraq v Iran and Russia v Afghanistan wars of the 80s.
Though I think in this case its intentionally being obtuse due to bias...which is pretty ignorant in itself.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 10:15:42
I was always a bit more of a history nerd than a political junkie.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 10:21:09
His whole argument? He is going all over the place....
nah, Idk wtf you two were talking about prior, but all of that post made sense.
Yep, one has to be fairly obtuse or ignorant of US arms dealings in the Iraq v Iran and Russia v Afghanistan wars of the 80s.
Though I think in this case its intentionally being obtuse due to bias...which is pretty ignorant in itself. I highly doubt he was referring to Operation Desert Storm or the Gulf War.....
I mean, when we are talking about current events, it doesn't make sense to bring up a war not the most previous conflict in the area.....
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-01-20 10:40:42
His whole argument? He is going all over the place....
nah, Idk wtf you two were talking about prior, but all of that post made sense.
Yep, one has to be fairly obtuse or ignorant of US arms dealings in the Iraq v Iran and Russia v Afghanistan wars of the 80s.
Though I think in this case its intentionally being obtuse due to bias...which is pretty ignorant in itself. I highly doubt he was referring to Operation Desert Storm or the Gulf War.....
I mean, when we are talking about current events, it doesn't make sense to bring up a war not the most previous conflict in the area.....
Yeah because current events have no connection to the past.
Obviously he was talking about the arming of Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war of 83 and the arming of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan in the Russian/Afghan war of 79-89' and how those same Allies became our enemies in recent times.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-20 10:41:56
Now you are the one being obtuse.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-01-20 10:45:18
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 10:56:24
Now you are the one being obtuse.
if you can't see how recent history shapes current events, you have no business in the P&R section at all, other than making the right look bad.
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By Nazrious 2015-01-20 11:36:41
Now you are the one being obtuse.
if you can't see how recent history shapes current events, you have no business in the P&R section at all, other than making the right look bad.
Hey the right takes offense to ***like this.
Lolwasf.
But the right and left are only good for covering your ears when you don't want to hear or eyes when you don't want to see.
We should all be part of the middle, the one between your ears, and use our brains instead of spouting crap.
US supplied weapons in Afghanistan, trained bin laden. Russians had supremacy prior to US interference. This is why Russia is so anti America, among other things, just weak drama from previous era shenanigans.
Also with the state of the current world market no one nation has meaningful power outside of force. Thus walking lightly becomes very impossible, and that big stick atarts to get dented and bloody.
Points on both sides, but neither will admit it because, lol political partiess/ sides.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-20 11:40:20
lol political partiess/ sides.
I'm on my own side & only trust 2 dead men.
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