[Dev] Seekers Of Adoulin Not Supporting NA PS2

I agree sir im to stupid and trolling to have a discussion with you as you have stated tons of times. I dont have a viewpoint anymore because I be trolling. I don't understand computers at all. not going to school for it or nothing like that so I have no idea.

People will find anything to argue about over others opinions.

PS2 has been an ongoing debate for the longest now because everyone seems to think if PS2 is droped this will "suddenly" get better, which it won't.

this game was created on PS2. i think some things won't change.
people have to get sick of the limits Ps2 had and force them selfs to get a pc.

3 years ago i played on ps2 what made me get a PC for this game? it kept black screening on diffrent stuff like CSs and sea, that was more then enough motivation for me to say screw this thing.

they would have to comeplety redo the game. Ps2 was droped in NA because there aren't enough people, it's no diffrent then a resturant. if only 2 people are coming in to buy food that isn't enough to keep them in business so they close it down.

tho i have no idea why JP ps2 users are high, i guess they don't let things die so easily.

going to school for something doesn't mean you have an understanding in something.

I took spanish for 3 years, it doesn't mean I understand a lick of spanish.

Kind of similar to how you don't understand or are just unable to communicate properly in english.

close, the PS2 support in the US by Sony itself has ended, SE isn't a hardware manufacturer, they don't have the capacity to press discs on their own, Sony had that task.

whether or not they'll use a digital download for the US PS2 is hard to say.


Japan has a very different culture than here, and the PS2 has been out longer over there, and the 360 is nowhere near as popular in Japan, just some of the reasons.

Quadruple negative.

Says the guy who can't even type using the english language. Sir I agreed with you. I had no idea or viewpoint on this topic you caught me trolling. I really hope you play this game very well you know which to much info not to be a good player. I guess I haven't been typing in english so sorry :(

It showed, i remember when the Dreamcast was STILL active over there after it was dead and buried in US.

and Xbox was mostly a FPS system which i don't think is very popular in japan. i could be wrong.

Take PSU for example, it was shut down on PC and PS2 but still reamins playable on Xbox.

Sorry i'm working on it. been informed I been using the english language wrong all this time forgive me?

50 dorrar

I would have to agree and disagree.

Spellcast can only help a user in reaching the potential a job has, it is still up to the player to do the job required of them. It could be said that Spellcast makes players lazy, which for some may be true, but is not true in the majority of users I believe.

I think playing without spellcast actually can motivate a player more to do well, and this may be why some notice some of the better players are on consoles. On the other hand I find that players who actually write their own spellcasts, and not copy and paste something from the internet, tend to be better in their job than ones who do copy and paste one.

When it comes down to it I don't think using spellcast or windower macros is a huge factor in how well you do. I think your dedication and effort to the job is much more obvious when you stand out from a group of players, gear can only do so much if you don't know how to use it to it's potential.

I think a player able to stand out from the rest playing their job on a console do deserve some praise, but I don't think it makes them a better player just for limiting themselves like that. Most players that move to spellcast/windower macros do so because of the limitations on the macro system, not because they want their job played for them. SE has said numerous times over the years that they would like to increase the number of lines for macros, but it just can't be done because of the PS2.

When it comes to me personally I don't care if you're on a console, playing legit pc, or using spellcast or windower macros. I just want you to put your best effort into doing your part and helping the group succeed. If you can't carry the weight that is not because you are on console or using spellcast or w/e, it's because you aren't fit to fill that role yet.

aren't the adding more macros to the new UI?

(not lines, but macros)

I'd say the line issue has to do more with the engine than the system, a few lines of text take up very little data.


Edit: not saying that SE didn't say it, just saying they like to use that scapegoat a lot.

Idk, it may very well be the engine but from my memory (which may not be accurate) SE put the blame on PS2.

They might also just be pointing fingers to get out of doing some work as well /shrug

Edit: like your ninja edit just said!

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Personally, I'm on a PS2, and I try to play my jobs the best i can with the limited macro lines i have. SE did put the blame on the PS2 for the limited number of macro lines, but that was after they had introduced an official windower for the PC community, after years of trying to ban the illegal software players were already using. Hackers rewrote part of the PC version code over and over, which essentially left the PS2 version behind in it's original format.

This may be seen as Q.Qing, griping, or being butthurt, but I'm a longstanding denizen of playing games the way they were meant to be played, and while I really get irked by those using 3rd party programs, like speed hackers and clippers, if all you're doing is making the game more enjoyable, without screwing anyone else around you, go for it. More Macro lines, more macro books, pallets, etc. Just don't go spouting "PS2 Limitations" when it's been clearly debunked.

what i dont get is why everyone is so pussy crybaby when it comes too forum talk. omg report this mother******* cause his wall of text is trolling; ;. these threads are a dime a billion QQ if someones wall of text offends you. grow up and ignore it. same with the mods being too sensitive christ. 2cents

Why turn a blind eye to ignorance?

forums are for those with strong opinions. if you weak gtfo

I got it, so having a different opinion is weak.

The mods have a good reason for what they do. They're there so we can have a discussion forum in the first place. They work for free, they're polite, and we honestly don't even see that much of them.

You can keep your 2 cents, pennies are worthless anyway.

reported for whining about reporting

I was originally a PS2 player, even got fishing to 100 on PS2 and probably have played on PS2 longer than I have with PC/Windower. My reason for leaving the PS2, partly because my system was falling apart, was because I was sick of hitting more than 1 macro for a single action. As a whm I felt I was limiting my potential, making sacrifices that would of benefited my job further just so I didn't have yet another line of macros to deal with.

I too believe a game should be played the way it was meant to, but I do not think the game in it's current state is what the game was meant to be. It might of been acceptable in it's creation, but there has been little progress to the macro system since then. Only recently were they able to seriously make an update to make macro's more manageable, but I had long since moved to PC when the news came out.

The thing is though, some of the heavy illegal 3rd party programs can still work without the use of Windower, but there are some that require windower to work. I would personally like to know why Windower allows these programs to work, but I could also see it to be almost impossible to blacklist every single program that windower doesn't agree with.

I personally never used a gameshark or w/e, and don't consider windower or spellcast to be one. Like you said, "if all you're doing is making the game more enjoyable, without screwing anyone else around you, go for it.", it is my opinion that is basically windower's goal. You cannot find any program on the website that would let you hack, or bot, as it is against the rules. I would guess the majority of users that do use windower/spellcast use it for the same reasons I do, to expand the macro system. The ones that use it to take advantage of other 3rd party programs are the ones that ruin it for everyone around them, including other windower users.

I'm a homo with too much time on my hands and I want nothing to do with that job thanks. <.<

Where has anyone talked about reporting someone besides the post below yours.

congrats on upping your post count too let us all know about something noone cares about. tattle~tale XD!

reported for mentioning post count

id like too respond too this and say, {understood}XD i angry ok now see my rath.

if a mod locks thread now because of me mentioning what i said then so be it; cause on those same grounds the thread should have been locked from page 1.

What was said on page one?

sir im going to have to ask you to calm down