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Free speech versus kids and violent video games
 Leviathan.Scorch
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By Leviathan.Scorch 2010-04-26 20:58:56
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Fenrir.Ktjrn said:
I seriously think that parents need to take control and be parents, not a best friend to his/her child. Kids get away so much these days and the adults turn a blind eye, living in denial because they don't want to face the truth. I also believe that some people really have a hard time telling the difference between fiction and reality. Especially @ a young age, parents need to sit with their kids and talk to them about life, what's real and what's fake,so that they won't have these issues adjusting in society. Parents need to stop blaming media and other means of communication and start taking responsibility, and therefore there would not be all these shitty *** restrictions all over the damn place

I played MK when I was five years old. Did I think it was cool? Hell Yeah I thought it was cool. Did I think I could create a ball of ice out of my hand and force it to my brother and then kick him into a million pieces? Of course not. I'm pretty sure unless you have a serious mental illness, one is born with the ability to decipher reality. Do parents neglect to punish their children for their actions? Yes, you are correct. Playing video games has not hindered my ability to funcion in society, except for the fact that I don't give a damn, and hate people.
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By Asura.Twotones 2010-04-26 21:47:58
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I agree with Ktjrn that parents need to take control more and tell their kids right from wrong. Teach the kids that this is a movie game or whatever it maybe.

Scorch I played Mk that was a awesome game I even played Eternal Champions where you could decapated a person. On neglect to punish thier kids for their actions now days its called child abuse its not like the old days where you could get a whooping for something wrong which most of these age people turned out right. I belive passing laws can do more wong than right and I do agree with the rating but knowing them they will add a bunch of bs that would hurt gaming.

On a side note other than getting a whooping my other punishment was working my *** off at a farm which I enjoyed and was taught things.
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By Bismarck.Recaldy 2010-04-26 22:15:49
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Always start with the parents.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-04-26 22:47:11
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Bismarck.Recaldy said:
Always start with the parents.

Always goes back to the fact that nobody takes responsibility for their actions. In our society, it's acceptable to point the finger somewhere else. Our parents do it, their grandparents did it, etc.
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By Fenrir.Fdeath 2010-04-26 23:12:03
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Bismarck.Recaldy said:
Always start with the parents.

Always goes back to the fact that nobody takes responsibility for their actions. In our society, it's acceptable to point the finger somewhere else. Our parents do it, their grandparents did it, etc.

agree on that.
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By Shiva.Dinarii 2010-04-26 23:22:20
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it's all the parents. years ago reading this, i would have scoffed at the notion. but now, it's quite a thought provoking idea.

here in PA, if you arent 18, you cant purchase anything rated Mature without ID. no matter what you do, the system isnt going to be perfect. But if you're the parent buying this stuff for your kids, don't be surprised when they do stupid things they've seen/heard/done in a video game. i don't believe that games or movies make kids do stupid things. but it isn't for those whose minds are still developing as it may slightly twist the way they see things as acceptable, especially with a parent who can't say no and teach their kids proper values and right from wrong.

everyone has that friend who as a kid had everything. their parents bought them whatever they wanted, when they wanted it. no matter what it was. aside from firearms(who i knew a few parents who did just that). If the parents are absent as many are wont to do in todays world, the child grows up without the same ideals that maybe our parents had shown us.

i came from a family that spanked their kids, grounded them(no going outside, no phone calls, no games, no tv. you cleaned. and cleaned. and cleaned some more), etc. there was no "timeouts" there was none of this, i'll take you're video games away for 2 hrs bs. and yes, i do believe there is a difference between spanking and full out beating the ***out of your kids.

as a parent myself now, i look at things differently. i reward my children when they should be, i punish them when they require it. depending on severity of the deed, brings about the severity of the punishment. i look at it, if you can't raise your kids you should have them taken from you. someone else wants kids but cannot have them who would be happy to take them off your hands. and who could be 10x the parent that you are. (generalization here, not pointing at any of YOU)
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-27 00:02:19
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Bismarck.Recaldy said:
Always start with the parents.
I like where this is going!!!


But seriously you can't expect all parents to just raise there kids right. Just saying blame the parents everytime and move on is the lazy way out. Sure better parenting could've helped but clearly man parents are lacking and as such people are taking steps to take over where parents are failing.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-04-27 00:31:58
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Though I agree that subject matter deemed to violent should be kept away from kids.. albeit movies/tv shows/videogames, it is 100% the parents decision. As a parent I choose what my kids play as far as games go, or what the watch on tv... and I dont want the government sticking their noses in my business. If the sale of violent material does become restricted... who's to say that parents wont just buy it for their kids anyway...

My 2cents
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-04-27 01:09:03
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Remember when you were like 5 and power rangers was the coolest thing on TV? And I mean like Season 1 with Zordon and that awesome Robot called Alpha.... *sigh..... good old days*
And you could always tell who the kids were that were watching it, because you'd always try and like go all ninja on your siblings, or if you were into wrestling you'd try wrestling moves :P
Your folks would be like "Stop trying to put him in headlocks! You're gonna put him in hospital! And don't suplex the cat, kitties don't bend that way."

Not a lot of parents pay attention to what goes in games that their kids play until it's too late; parents, out of the blue aren't gonna sit down with you and say "Well, please don't steal my car and try to ram it into a group of pedestrians like you do on your videogame." or "People don't get one-ups, so you can't go shooting them!" lol ><

But you can bet, the first time a kid steps out of line and does something drastic, it's all "OH well it was his videogames! It was their fault!"

I completely agree with you Kt when you say it's all about responsibility. People will moan that rights are being taken away, but rights are meant to be earned I think. If people can't take responsibility for their actions then they don't deserve priviledges. (Not sure if that's the right word, oh well)

@ Degs: I'm glad that you do regulate what your children play / watch on the TV etc, it's sad to see how many parents are like "Eh, just go play in your room and give me some quiet time"

But the government putting their noses in and age-restricting sales on things like this would be better I think. Yes, you could still buy these items for your children, but for parents who don't own a drop of common sense, seeing '18+ Only' on a game case might make them think that this isn't suitable for their kid, or that they should probably check what the item is/contains before just getting it for the child ><.
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By Shiva.Dinarii 2010-04-27 01:13:48
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i dont know if i agree with that dasva, yes you will have the occasional kid lash out in some unusual ways, for better or for worse. but the basis of it all, i believe is within the confines of parenting. being a parent isnt easy, but things like this to me is a basic premise to showing your children how to live their lives "properly". if a kid isnt 18, can't buy x game themselves. if parents are not checking out the games/movies/etc that their children are into, i consider that irresponsible.

if i am spending the money on these consoles/systems/games, then i for damn sure am going to see what it's all about. im not going to be buying my 5yo daughter god of war 3, or GTA 57. call it right or not, but if you have parents that dont give a damn, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

it's not just this generations parents that are lacking, it's generations upon generations. to give a stereotypical example, but one that i saw occur constantly growing up: Parents buy child whatever they want, not earning anything. child doesnt learn the value of the things he has, treats it like garbage, and does so for the rest of their life. Expecting hand outs, and free meal tickets up to and including today.

on the other hand, you have a kid who has to get their own job, bc parents don't just hand them what they want, tends to learn the value of the things they have. and treats things and other people with more respect.