Did SE Kill MNK @ Vanafest 2010?
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Did SE kill MNK @ vanafest 2010?
Cuz everything has to benefit endgame activities amirite?
Fairy.Spence said: Cuz everything has to benefit endgame activities amirite? that's what everyone thinks apparently but really if you're gonna say mnk is useless because they are in HNM and ***, why even bother posting on something about mnk and pup? both are useless for those events
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Cerberus.Jiko said: PUP changes at 75 with stringing pummel, usukane, and other great ***you dont get eariler on. Wuts your point with this I know they get these, I had all these considered when I made the post. Both jobs are gonna be fairly equal tho imo just depends on gear and skill like I said. My point just was monk hasnt been killed is all. Bismarck.Hisagi said: Who cares of mnk is an useless job. Depends what you do in game really. So ya mnk hasnt been killed and it isnt useless >.> lol. Fairy.Basilo said: Cerberus.Jiko said: PUP changes at 75 with stringing pummel, usukane, and other great ***you dont get eariler on. Wuts your point with this I know they get these, I had all these considered when I made the post. Both jobs are gonna be fairly equal tho imo just depends on gear and skill like I said. My point just was monk hasnt been killed is all. Bismarck.Hisagi said: Who cares of mnk is an useless job. Depends what you do in game really. So ya mnk hasnt been killed and it isnt useless >.> lol. Unless you do a salvage run and then log off ffxi, i dont see how it can be usefull. Saves me time from having to lv mages to solo ***. Solo'd t1/2/3 ZNM today. While a mage can do it, quicker for me to do it as is now than lv another job gear it ect
Bismarck.Hisagi said: Fairy.Basilo said: Cerberus.Jiko said: PUP changes at 75 with stringing pummel, usukane, and other great ***you dont get eariler on. Wuts your point with this I know they get these, I had all these considered when I made the post. Both jobs are gonna be fairly equal tho imo just depends on gear and skill like I said. My point just was monk hasnt been killed is all. Bismarck.Hisagi said: Who cares of mnk is an useless job. Depends what you do in game really. So ya mnk hasnt been killed and it isnt useless >.> lol. Unless you do a salvage run and then log off ffxi, i dont see how it can be usefull. I'll let you all discuss this, not wasting my breath trying to explain to people who are hardcore endgame Well tbh I personally only do salvage now 3x a week as endgame but mnk is also decent for dynamis farms, einherjar I ended up tanking quite a bit as monk with TDG, some ZNM fights monk can tank, nyzul its decent, KSNMS, ISNMS, ENMS.
HNM isnt everything. Bismarck.Animaal said: Bismarck.Hisagi said: Fairy.Basilo said: Cerberus.Jiko said: PUP changes at 75 with stringing pummel, usukane, and other great ***you dont get eariler on. Bismarck.Hisagi said: Who cares of mnk is an useless job. I was considering not bothering either lol, I was bored. Fairy.Vegetto said: haidate 1 already got destroyed lol Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: Fairy.Vegetto said: haidate 1 already got destroyed lol Only area I think a MNK would be uncapped without shura haidate +1 would be colibri pt, and that would only be if you didn't have focus up.
So I can agree with your statement concerning the use of Usu/Hachiryu legs in place of shura. eh i get to go mnk to anything , if your mnk is good it will get in period. and im sorry to break it but subtle-blow + pennance = your mob never gets a damn tp move off you. go caps your merits on pennance and try it out. MNK can out do almost any job on a merit party ( even on brids been 2% below a sam or a drg is not shaby ;3) also remember mnk has to gimp it self with /NIN to beging with. every merited MNK/WAR? you laugh @ SAM/DRGs or DRG/SAMs whem comes to dmg. so like Yonnin for NIN, if you cry about Yonnin messing your acc is probably becouse you should not be playing NIN to beging with. MNK dont really need anything. A Pup needs a puppet to do its job. if the toy dies... the PUP becomes a gimpy gimped mnk. gear wise.. Blackbelt hello? not dissing PUPs just they DO need the update . we mnks dont.
Pup breaking 300 hand to hand skill and having an automaton while Monk is still stuck at 299. How balanced.
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Those knuckles aren't the best thing to wear though so less than 300 skill will be better than 300 skill
Fairy.Vegetto said: Those knuckles aren't the best thing to wear though so less than 300 skill will be better than 300 skill +2 damage +10 h2h beat out NQ Hades sainti...
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Oh I think MNK got killed by the two handed patch way back when.. Now they are just situationally good DD's.
MNK is the only melee DD job I have, and it's pimped out very well but I still find it really difficult to put up numbers in a parse against other DD's in my LS, even those that are geared/merited much worse comparatively than I am. I've also seem some of the (supposedly) best geared MNK's on my server in action and.. maybe they just had a few bad fights.. but they failed to really impress.. They do tank pretty well though, and I think this is where SE should give them a boost. Cerberus.Jiko said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Those knuckles aren't the best thing to wear though so less than 300 skill will be better than 300 skill 2 damage 10 h2h beat out NQ Hades sainti... Fairy.Vegetto said: Cerberus.Jiko said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Those knuckles aren't the best thing to wear though so less than 300 skill will be better than 300 skill 2 damage 10 h2h beat out NQ Hades sainti... I've gotten close a few times going for +4 Pet MAB ones... Idk another good piece at 75 is chiv chain and it's lvl 60. I'd say your gear won't become obsolete if they don't implement gear that is rediculously superior to what already exists. So if there is gear that is similar to idk... askar, hauby, etc then you can still use your existing gear if you already have it.
Lakshmi.Wardens said: Idk another good piece at 75 is chiv chain and it's lvl 60. I'd say your gear won't become obsolete if they don't implement gear that is rediculously superior to what already exists. So if there is gear that is similar to idk... askar, hauby, etc then you can still use your existing gear if you already have it. I dont know if thats an attempt at trolling... or if you're serious. First off, in terms of straight melee MNK will always be superior to a PUP simply because of Martial arts VI vs. Martial Arts III. Unless the MNK in question is vastly undergeared than said PUP. The only way a PUP ever beats MNK is with the Puppet...Not the Puppetmaster. Also, Stringing Pummel is good,but it doesnt beat Asuran Fists. Unless the MNK is complete Suck at WS gearing.
Don't feel bad.... It looks like they gonna F up Sam too. Thinking of lowering sekkenoki to lower level so it can be used on subs. Drakesbane x2. Every job gonna be able to solo skillchains now. The only thing I like thus far is the possible additions of new white magic.
lol sam was broken far before sekk, other jobs having it isn't gonna make much of a diff. Will help them catch up a bit.
shadower said: Well, I already quit FFXI...LMAO...f'cked all those updates...I'm not gonna grinding exp, getting new gears for all the jobs again. Shiva.Darkshade said: shadower said: Well, I already quit FFXI...LMAO...f'cked all those updates...I'm not gonna grinding exp, getting new gears for all the jobs again. why are you guys ragging on Shadower? MNK is MNK and PUP is PUP they dont have much common except they both use H2H . Whats all the fuzz about.
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LOL at all the people who say "mnks just don't put up good numbers". Run a parser and see the proof. While you'll almost never see high WS numbers on mnks, the DoT they put out is insane. Btw, is everyone forgetting that mnks get 3 additional martial arts traits over pup? What about Black Belt? That's 8% haste that pups will never see. This thread is pointless imho. Pup is generally used as a solo job.
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