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Houston Police Chief "Drug War 'Miserable' Failure
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-12-07 02:01:12
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Imagine a world where a junkie could support his habit without involving my car stereo, where they wouldn't OD unless extremely stupid or suicidal.
Most drug users, in my experience, have plenty of opportunities to be "extremely stupid." Marijuana overdose was something that people debated even existed until CO changed its laws.
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By Leviathan.Protey 2014-12-07 09:28:16
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Personally, I don't care if drugs are legalized or not. Just as long as I don't have to partake in your stupidity. I.e.: you get intoxicated and operate a vehicle, or my having to breathe w/e ***you are smoking (and yes, I am against people smoking cigarettes/cigars out in public).
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-07 09:43:01
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Personally, I don't care if drugs are legalized or not. Just as long as I don't have to partake in your stupidity. I.e.: you get intoxicated and operate a vehicle, or my having to breathe w/e ***you are smoking (and yes, I am against people smoking cigarettes/cigars out in public).

You just can't make everything illegal because a few people are too stupid. Someone will always find something to get messed up on and do things that harm others. Believe me, there's a reason I live in a small town.

I've smoked cigarettes off and on, but I always avoid crowds or stand downwind and never throw butts on the ground. People don't think about anyone else; a product of the participation award generations.
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By Leviathan.Protey 2014-12-07 10:30:39
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Personally, I don't care if drugs are legalized or not. Just as long as I don't have to partake in your stupidity. I.e.: you get intoxicated and operate a vehicle, or my having to breathe w/e ***you are smoking (and yes, I am against people smoking cigarettes/cigars out in public).

You just can't make everything illegal because a few people are too stupid. Someone will always find something to get messed up on and do things that harm others. Believe me, there's a reason I live in a small town.

I've smoked cigarettes off and on, but I always avoid crowds or stand downwind and never throw butts on the ground. People don't think about anyone else; a product of the participation award generations.

I said I don't care if it is illegal, or not illegal. I just don't want to be affected by w/e it is you are doing. But as mentioned earlier, drug users should not get any leniency if they do harm others.

And yea, i agree with your assessment about people, this entitlement generation that thinks only of their own self gratification is really harming our society. Which is why I like Japan so much. I never saw one cigarette butt, no litter, and I never had to worry about stepping in gum. It's all about consideration of others over there. Would be nice if people here in the U.S. would learn a thing or two from them.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-07 10:31:38
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Honestly: people have been self absorbed *** way before this generation, just more of it's noted now with media, etc.

Most people consider me an outright ***, but if I smoked I wouldn't do it around others, in/at entrances to places (where people have to walk by), litter, etc.

My sister is still mad at me for banning smoking in my car, tired of smelling that ***.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-08 00:28:56
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Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Imagine a world where a junkie could support his habit without involving my car stereo, where they wouldn't OD unless extremely stupid or suicidal.
Most drug users, in my experience, have plenty of opportunities to be "extremely stupid." Marijuana overdose was something that people debated even existed until CO changed its laws.

I never thought seriously about how dangerous the word imagine can be. When I look back to music John Lennon wrote a song imagine. He got killed not to long after that. Makes you think about the world if folks like Abraham Lincoln or John F Kennedy Jimmy Hendricks Kurt Cobain Martin Luther King and all the folks who got cut down due to imagining or I know consumption abuse. Still I bet it had they all lived full lives this nation would be different.
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By Voren 2014-12-08 01:01:05
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What's baffled me about keeping most narcotics illegal has been that I've seen multiple fatality collisions due to some no talent assclown dickbump deciding to overindulge in alcohol and then make the decision to operate a motor vehicle and yet alcohol is still legal nation wide.

Someone decides to roll up some green herb and use at their house and all of a sudden the police are kicking in their door and criminalizing them, makes no sense.

I'm not for everything to be made legal. Methamphetamine is pure filth that has absolutely no value whatsoever. Heroin was easily replaced as a pain killer (laudanum was used throughout the 19th century and first part of the 20th to relieve pain for a wide variety of ailments), yet marijuana has been noted even by the beloved Dr Sanjay Gupta as having several beneficial uses in medical science.

What the "war on drugs" is to me is an exercise in futility and proof that if you don't learn from history you'll repeat it. Prohibition gave birth to a huge amount of criminal activity and did nothing to stop the flow of alcohol in America. What it did though was create criminals where there wouldn't have been any. It placed people in danger that would have otherwise have been safe. It also helped to cause me accidental deaths due to incorrectly manufacturing grain alcohol (moonshine) because there's no quality control in Jethro and Joe-Bob's back yard.

Law makers need to stop this nonsense and start taking history lessons to heart before making ridiculous laws, but that'll mean we actually vote in politicians intelligent enough to side with history and not their wallets.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-08 04:33:39
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Voren said: »
What's baffled me about keeping most narcotics illegal has been that I've seen multiple fatality collisions due to some no talent assclown dickbump deciding to overindulge in alcohol and then make the decision to operate a motor vehicle and yet alcohol is still legal nation wide.

Someone decides to roll up some green herb and use at their house and all of a sudden the police are kicking in their door and criminalizing them, makes no sense.

I'm not for everything to be made legal. Methamphetamine is pure filth that has absolutely no value whatsoever. Heroin was easily replaced as a pain killer (laudanum was used throughout the 19th century and first part of the 20th to relieve pain for a wide variety of ailments), yet marijuana has been noted even by the beloved Dr Sanjay Gupta as having several beneficial uses in medical science.

What the "war on drugs" is to me is an exercise in futility and proof that if you don't learn from history you'll repeat it. Prohibition gave birth to a huge amount of criminal activity and did nothing to stop the flow of alcohol in America. What it did though was create criminals where there wouldn't have been any. It placed people in danger that would have otherwise have been safe. It also helped to cause me accidental deaths due to incorrectly manufacturing grain alcohol (moonshine) because there's no quality control in Jethro and Joe-Bob's back yard.

Law makers need to stop this nonsense and start taking history lessons to heart before making ridiculous laws, but that'll mean we actually vote in politicians intelligent enough to side with history and not their wallets.

Absolutely agree about the history lesson. I can't believe we as American citizens put up with the misrepresentation and to allow a central bank and corporations go unchecked wrecking our nation. We have had 3 installments of centralized banking in our nation's history the reserve we have now is the 3rd incarnation of the first two that failed. It took making state banks to remove our nation out of debt and create the biggest economy our nation had.

Again legacy to that memory is north Dakota as the only state with a state bank.

Funny thing is the first assassination attempt on a us president was andrew Jackson and why ? Because he wanted the Mon to belong to the citizens of this great nation not a central greedy elite bank. Abraham Lincoln was killed to some would say not adding to our national debt he paid the entire civil war with interest free currency. Then he was shot in a theater. Kennedy was killed to some would say in one of his last speeches of wanting to create interest free currency that did not come from the federal reserve.

We have been under central banking rule for 101 years poisoning our nation. A time of change is need for we are the children of the revolution our fore fathers started to make this nation. All that is needed is to stop voting for Republicans and Democrats. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still selection evil in my opinion a bad choice.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2014-12-08 04:45:09
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Leviathan.Protey said: »
Personally, I don't care if drugs are legalized or not. Just as long as I don't have to partake in your stupidity. I.e.: you get intoxicated and operate a vehicle, or my having to breathe w/e ***you are smoking (and yes, I am against people smoking cigarettes/cigars out in public).

The drugs and their use can be legal, while their use or abuse under certain circumstances can still be illegal. See alcohol and driving. Also, just because a substance is legal, there can still be consequences for its use outside of the legal system. See alcohol and employer policies, private property rights, etc.
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By Enuyasha 2014-12-08 05:19:39
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
Leviathan.Protey said: »
Personally, I don't care if drugs are legalized or not. Just as long as I don't have to partake in your stupidity. I.e.: you get intoxicated and operate a vehicle, or my having to breathe w/e ***you are smoking (and yes, I am against people smoking cigarettes/cigars out in public).

The drugs and their use can be legal, while their use or abuse under certain circumstances can still be illegal. See alcohol and driving. Also, just because a substance is legal, there can still be consequences for its use outside of the legal system. See alcohol and employer policies, private property rights, etc.
Or creating unregulated versions of said legal substance (See Moonshine, Lean, prescription drugs, pain killers, etc.)
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By Voren 2014-12-08 07:14:29
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Since when are prescription drugs unregulated? If you're caught with a prescription drug in your possession for which you do not have a prescription it is a misdemeanor at the least.

Prescription pain killers are on the narcotics schedule and can be a misdemeanor or felony depending, of course, upon state laws as well as what type of pain killer it is.

Moonshine and any drug manufactured by people who do not have to adhere to FDA standards is what would be unregulated.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-12-08 08:49:56
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Nothing the government could ever do could ever not work,or be a magnificent waste of time money and resources.

We should put them in charge of healthcare.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-12-08 10:02:33
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Voren said: »
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What the "war on drugs" is to me is an exercise in futility and proof that if you don't learn from history you'll repeat it. Prohibition gave birth to a huge amount of criminal activity and did nothing to stop the flow of alcohol in America. What it did though was create criminals where there wouldn't have been any. It placed people in danger that would have otherwise have been safe. It also helped to cause me accidental deaths due to incorrectly manufacturing grain alcohol (moonshine) because there's no quality control in Jethro and Joe-Bob's back yard.

Law makers need to stop this nonsense and start taking history lessons to heart before making ridiculous laws, but that'll mean we actually vote in politicians intelligent enough to side with history and not their wallets.
The only thing we learn from the study of history is we learn nothing from history. - From my first day's lecture in History 101.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-08 10:14:48
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War on drugs is an excuse to incarcerate, profit and pseudo-moralize while upholding a two-tiered legal system that punishes the poor and encourages the rich to feed cartels that have wrecked Central America and forced migrants up north.
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By Ramyrez 2014-12-08 10:49:32
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Voren said: »
Since when are prescription drugs unregulated? If you're caught with a prescription drug in your possession for which you do not have a prescription it is a misdemeanor at the least.

Prescription pain killers are on the narcotics schedule and can be a misdemeanor or felony depending, of course, upon state laws as well as what type of pain killer it is.

Moonshine and any drug manufactured by people who do not have to adhere to FDA standards is what would be unregulated.

I could be slightly off on this statistic, but if prescription narcotics are not the #1 cause of overdoses in this country, they're high up there. Partially because you get the double-up of people actually abusing them and people who are legitimately prescribed them messing up and accidentally OD'ing when they're just trying to get their chronic pain under control enough to sleep.
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By Ramyrez 2014-12-08 10:53:09
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My sister is still mad at me for banning smoking in my car, tired of smelling that ***.

I will never understand people who smoke in their cars and homes.

Even if you're a smoker and have a bit of olfactory resistance to the smell in general, if you walk into a home or get into a car like that, it doesn't matter; you still get assailed by that stale stench.

I smoked socially in college and for a while after that before quitting entirely because I stopped enjoying it, but...ugh. You wake up the next day after being in a bar or party house and your clothes just eminate that stale, smokey smell.
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By Enuyasha 2014-12-08 17:55:03
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Ramyrez said: »
Voren said: »
Since when are prescription drugs unregulated? If you're caught with a prescription drug in your possession for which you do not have a prescription it is a misdemeanor at the least.

Prescription pain killers are on the narcotics schedule and can be a misdemeanor or felony depending, of course, upon state laws as well as what type of pain killer it is.

Moonshine and any drug manufactured by people who do not have to adhere to FDA standards is what would be unregulated.

I could be slightly off on this statistic, but if prescription narcotics are not the #1 cause of overdoses in this country, they're high up there. Partially because you get the double-up of people actually abusing them and people who are legitimately prescribed them messing up and accidentally OD'ing when they're just trying to get their chronic pain under control enough to sleep.
Im sure i meant like, how people crush up Oxycontin and mix it with other pain killers and snort it :<

Im not entirely sure what i exactly meant cause it was like two days ago(?).

i dont even know how to even atm really :|
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-12-08 18:17:26
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Ramyrez said: »
Jetackuu said: »
My sister is still mad at me for banning smoking in my car, tired of smelling that ***.

I will never understand people who smoke in their cars and homes.

Even if you're a smoker and have a bit of olfactory resistance to the smell in general, if you walk into a home or get into a car like that, it doesn't matter; you still get assailed by that stale stench.

I smoked socially in college and for a while after that before quitting entirely because I stopped enjoying it, but...ugh. You wake up the next day after being in a bar or party house and your clothes just eminate that stale, smokey smell.

I will start having MASSIVE allergic reaction from breathing in smoke (2nd hand). I cant be around it. And when one of those reactions are triggered, your day is shot. Completely and totally. With the possibility of follow up days ><
It also comes with the additional problem of making me a lot more sensitive to virtually everything else.
Before i realized the cause and effect of all this, i used tissue or tp like most ppl to blow my nose. Now im highly allergic to breathing in any form of tissue, tp, paper towle, napkin or any other similar product. i cant use it for that period. Kinda goes for alot of this now a days ><
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