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Return of MNK/THF????
 Asura.Hit
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By Asura.Hit 2010-05-02 04:12:01
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*link to wiki's footwork page*

It states here that: TP bonus from martial knuckles applies to dragon kick with footwork up, even though the boots become your main weapon. Lol, I know that this is old but I'm dragging it out anyway.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-02 04:13:36
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It's wrong, TP bonus doesn't apply w/ footwork up.
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By Asura.Hit 2010-05-02 04:14:17
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
It's wrong, TP bonus doesn't apply w/ footwork up.

U gotta tell 'em man! Bust out your algebra skills.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-02 04:16:26
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Has nothing to do w/ algebra lol. They're just plain wrong. Whoever edited it in, that is.
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By Asura.Donomar 2010-05-02 04:38:38
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Cant believe half the ***on Wiki, anyone with a computer can edit it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-02 04:40:40
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Asura.Donomar said:
Cant believe half the ***on Wiki, anyone with a computer can edit it.
Exactly. And anyone with a computer can delete the edits anyone else makes. Therefore it balances out the errors. A lot more correct than one man basing all of his facts on his own opinions.
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By Asura.Donomar 2010-05-02 04:47:40
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Well if he is still unsure about martial Knucks at this point he may as well just get a pair and go test it out. Witch is wat most people in this game should be doing. Vegetto posted valuable data but would not hurt him to test it out himself if there are any doubts.
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By Lakshmi.Feifongwong 2010-05-02 06:03:29
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I like MNK/THF on high evasion or high defense monsters.. other than that, footwork is generally not worth it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-02 08:56:21
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Asura.Donomar said:
Well if he is still unsure about martial Knucks at this point he may as well just get a pair and go test it out. Witch is wat most people in this game should be doing. Vegetto posted valuable data but would not hurt him to test it out himself if there are any doubts.
I went out and did this test myself the week footwork came out, as well as a handful of other mnks.

Considering that a 200 tp dragon kick is 25% more damage than a 100tp dragon kick, it's not a hard test to do, either.
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By Siren.Shredda 2010-05-03 20:47:04
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Siren.Enternius said:
Asura.Donomar said:
Cant believe half the ***on Wiki, anyone with a computer can edit it.
Exactly. And anyone with a computer can delete the edits anyone else makes. Therefore it balances out the errors. A lot more correct than one man basing all of his facts on his own opinions.

Too bad you still manage to lie about all the ***you say.
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By Asura.Donomar 2010-05-04 03:58:11
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Yea I kno u did, but I'm just suggesting to him if he still does not believe you to go out and test it himself.
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By Asura.Despayn 2010-05-04 22:40:08
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I don't understand how /THF has anything to do with this.

@Dono; dimelo klk loco!
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:06:38
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Tiger beats me everywhere...

TP bonus doesn't apply. I did testing when footwork came out (after Vegetto did it, or Genome or someone I'm sure...) And edited wiki to say so... but that was a long time ago. I'll go fix it and yell a lot if someone hasn't yet.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:14:21
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Wiki is fixed.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:15:26
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Asura.Despayn said:
I don't understand how /THF has anything to do with this.
Um probably because a 1 hit ws benefits more more from SA or even TA then the normal multihit ones.

And if you are wondering about howling fist yes Dragonkick will benefit more from SA then it will since it ignores some def giving you a higher pdif to begin with
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-05 00:18:59
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Despayn said:
I don't understand how /THF has anything to do with this.
Um probably because a 1 hit ws benefits more more from SA or even TA then the normal multihit ones.

And if you are wondering about howling fist yes Dragonkick will benefit more from SA then it will since it ignores some def giving you a higher pdif to begin with
What does one hit WS' have to do w/ this?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:22:30
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Despayn said:
I don't understand how /THF has anything to do with this.
Um probably because a 1 hit ws benefits more more from SA or even TA then the normal multihit ones. And if you are wondering about howling fist yes Dragonkick will benefit more from SA then it will since it ignores some def giving you a higher pdif to begin with
What does one hit WS' have to do w/ this?
Well I assumed he was asking about why all this talk about Footwork and martial and DK and what that has to do with /thf....

What else does "I don't understand how /THF has anything to do with this." Especially in a thread titled return of mnk/thf
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-05 00:24:34
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h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:31:23
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either.

Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:35:03
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either.

Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point


Cause nin/thf SA wsing is totally popular.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-05 00:36:00
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either.

Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
Which ws are listed as one hit? I can't htink of a single h2h ws that is specifically listed as one
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:39:33
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either. Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
Cause nin/thf SA wsing is totally popular.
No but thf/nin SA wsing is. Hello manstab. Seriously were you being purposefully dense there?


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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either. Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
Which ws are listed as one hit? I can't htink of a single h2h ws that is specifically listed as one
Good point. Then again I can't think of a single ws that actually does say it is 1 hit. Though pretty sure all multihit ws do say so
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:41:19
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either. Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
Cause nin/thf SA wsing is totally popular.
No but thf/nin SA wsing is. Hello manstab. Seriously were you being purposefully dense there?

You list one example. Go on, give some more.

Even then, the SA only enhances the first hit. You'd do respectable numbers single wielding.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:44:25
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
h2h doesn't have any one hit ws, which is why I asked.
Sure if you want to be technical. But that's like saying neither does anyone who DWs doesn't either. Either way it does have ws that are listed as 1 hit so you get my point
Cause nin/thf SA wsing is totally popular.
No but thf/nin SA wsing is. Hello manstab. Seriously were you being purposefully dense there?
You list one example. Go on, give some more. Even then, the SA only enhances the first hit. You'd do respectable numbers single wielding.
I have no idea wtf kind of point you are trying to make. He said H2h doesn't have single hit ws. I said that is only a technicality like saying anyone DWing techinically doesn't have a single hit ws. None of that even has to do with SA or how popular a particular combination is.

And duh on how SA works
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:50:31
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You must be *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. You quote me and insult me while not mentioning that I was off topic. I come back to explain that a DW single hit ws with SA doesn't stack as well, which was a point you made earlier. Then you go back into telling me I'm off topic, and claim everyone knows how SA works. You must be some kind of *** genius.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 00:52:15
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Lulz. You sound all kinds of confused. Come back when you figure out whats going on in your own head
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 00:59:10
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Lulz. You sound all kinds of confused. Come back when you figure out whats going on in your own head


As I clarify and you, unable to comprehend what I said, throw another insult. Brilliance at its prime.

Also, since when the *** is a thf a nin? I give an example of nin/thf, and you reversed them. Nin's innate job trait is dual wield. Thf doesn't get that.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-05 01:06:08
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/yawn so sad.

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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-05-05 01:11:35
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Oi. I'm totally a buzzkill tonight >< Dasva won't even carry an argument with me.
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By Asura.Donomar 2010-05-06 07:20:56
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Asura.Despayn said:
@Dono; dimelo klk loco!

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