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How to get 6 Hit Build with Dusk Gloves?
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By Remora.Tailnothanks 2010-06-15 09:57:36
I was wondering how people get the 6-Hit build without TPing in the Hachiman Hands? Do you have to use a Rose strap or have the Usukane feet? The only Askar I have is the body.
These are my gear sets for reference, also 5/5 Store TP merits:
TP:
WS:
Also I am planning to upgrade to PCC/Sea Gorgets asap so will be losing the STP1 from Chiv Chain.
Phoenix.Zeotah
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By Phoenix.Zeotah 2010-06-15 09:59:58
Rose strap. Also get fumas.
Once you get the PCC, go with ecphoria for TP.
There's what I use as a reference. Stick in something like fowling in place of wyvern.
By Aslie 2010-06-15 10:02:05
Just curious why would you down grade to NQ Amemet?
Bismarck.Rellz
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By Bismarck.Rellz 2010-06-15 10:02:33
To OP: With what you have Askar body for TP should give u the 6hit.
This is what i use for TP: (6hit)
(Radenn is complete)
(Needs work but ok)
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Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2010-06-15 10:04:28
6hit with Hagun and 5/5 sTP Merits is Askar Body/Rajas/Brutal
With Hagun you need 21 more stp.
Full Merits give you +10
Asakr +5
Rajas +5
Brutal +1
That's the other 11
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-06-15 10:04:38
Aslie said: Just curious why would you down grade to NQ Amemet?
He probably added it into his set wrong. I doubt he'd actually downgrade.
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By Shiva.Lorielain 2010-06-15 10:05:24
Aslie said: Just curious why would you down grade to NQ Amemet? It was probably a mistake.
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-15 10:05:28
Don't worry about 6 hit just go for more haste and a 7 hit!
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-06-15 10:06:05
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By Remora.Tailnothanks 2010-06-15 10:07:04
Shiva.Lorielain said: Aslie said: Just curious why would you down grade to NQ Amemet? It was probably a mistake.
Yeah ^^
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-06-15 10:07:45
Personally I wouldn't touch Askar Body unless I know 100% that my acc is capped.
Haub + Rajas / Ecphoria / Rose Strap / Brutal would be the better combo imo.
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By Aslie 2010-06-15 10:08:37
Yea I thought It was my connection at first lol I figured as much ^^
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-06-15 10:11:19
Rose Strap, Brutal earring, Rajas Ring, Ecphoria ring is best IMO, don't resort to Askar on SAM!
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Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-06-15 10:14:04
ACC's only going to be capped at lolibri or lower with Hauby, without resorting to food for ACC. Might as well toss Askar on at that point.
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By Remora.Tailnothanks 2010-06-15 10:17:01
Yeah Askar is pretty much town gear or if I am fighting squishy things or want +eva instead of -20 eva. Do you need the Rose AND Ecphoria (5 stp) instead of just the 4 from Rose?
Either way ; ; looks like this kid needs to start doing some Salvage.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-06-15 10:20:02
Don't need to do Salvage.
Rose Strap is from Campaign.
Rajas is from COP.
Brutal is from COP/ABC's.
Ecphoria is from an easy kill NM/AH.
And yes, you need both Ecphoria and Rose Strap.
Total of +11 is needed for a 6-hit with 5/5 STP merits.
Rose Strap (+4), Rajas (+5), Ecphoria (+1) and Brutal (+1) will give you 11 on the nose.
In your case, until you get a PCC/Other neck piece, you won't need Ecphoria (afterwards is a different matter though).
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-15 10:22:21
Caitsith.Linear said: Ignore Zorander. I actually only said this to prove a point to a friend in game...who thinks that 20% Haste/7hit will out parse 17%/6hit...silly silly.
I don't sam much and when I do its only on easy stuff like city dynamis, assaults, limbus, ISNM and just messing around in campaign. I use Askar alot more than I should for the easy 6 hit..but I also have other ways to get to 6 hit.
Odin.Dirtyfinger said: Rose Strap, Brutal earring, Rajas Ring, Ecphoria ring is best IMO, don't resort to Askar on SAM! Is a good way to do it..you can keep Chiv around if you don't wanna deal with Ecophoria or try to get possitive augments on a Atilla's Earring.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-06-15 10:22:31
-20 Eva isn't that much really, high end mobs already have capped acc on you anyway. Arhat's Gi/Jinpachi are my life saver for oshit times ^^
You could cheat the 6hit by overflowing your STP in WS (17STP in WS) therefore it would catch up in TP phase, that way you could only use Rajas, Brutal & Rose strap so would give you a 6hit 95% of the time. If you're 5/5 Meditate then it's a small difference really.
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By Odin.Feppharony 2010-06-15 10:34:10
ACP Body with StoreTP +4, Subtle Blow +4, and Accuracy +10.
20% Haste, +11 StoreTP.
with extra DA, or you can use strength grip.
/peace ^^,
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-06-15 10:37:59
could also do
byakko, duskgloves, hauby/acp body, w.turban, hachimanfeet, rajas ring, brutal, chiv chain, swift/headlong/v.belt, some good backpiece, ur gkt and polegrip :P oh 5/5 storetp merits
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-15 10:44:08
Why would you give up 3 haste when you could just give up 2 DA, especially when the DA's value is severely depreciated due to lack of acc on WS? DA doesn't get the pDIF boost either as I recall, so it's even worse...
Sylph.Sukh
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By Sylph.Sukh 2010-06-15 10:45:46
This is what I use, but I have Usu feet so I guess that didn't really answer your question.
With 5/5 sTP merits and a 450 delay gkt, the magic number is +11 sTP in gear. Didn't read a lot of the above, sorry if someone else said all that already. x.X
Not sure why my item set isn't showing... Hmmmmm.
Ramuh.Ragni
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By Ramuh.Ragni 2010-06-15 10:48:20
I use that set for 6 hit build. 5/5 Store TP merits ofcourse :)
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-06-15 10:50:19
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Why would you give up 3 haste when you could just give up 2 DA, especially when the DA's value is severely depreciated due to lack of acc on WS? DA doesn't get the pDIF boost either as I recall, so it's even worse... the person just wanted a 6-hit build with duskgloves, didn't say it had to be good. my set looks like Feppharony's
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By Odin.Feppharony 2010-06-15 10:57:37
Sylph.Sukh said:
This is what I use, but I have Usu feet so I guess that didn't really answer your question.
With 5/5 sTP merits and a 450 delay gkt, the magic number is 11 sTP in gear. Didn't read a lot of the above, sorry if someone else said all that already. x.X
Not sure why my item set isn't showing... Hmmmmm.
/drool
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-15 11:00:24
There are lot of ways to get to 6 hit with dusk gloves..if you don't have Rose just get Hachiman Feet..and get Fuma over Enkidu.
Sylph.Sukh
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By Sylph.Sukh 2010-06-15 11:00:27
Nah it'll be /drool once Citadel stops being a stingy little ***... and when I can scrounge up 150m to finish the last stage of Amano. (Yeah right.)
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-15 11:03:25
Yup this is basically what any sam would want to aim for as far as TP goes..not much negative to say about..and by much I mean none.
Edit: Now show us the WS gears so we can all be jealous of those as well.
Sylph.Sukh
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By Sylph.Sukh 2010-06-15 11:08:28
Actually, my WS gear is highly lacking :( I sold my Cerb+1 recently to finish stage 4, and my Dusk+1 are the product of selling my H. Pants ;;
Working on a Saramaya pop to get them back now though.
Edit: But here it is, like I said, it's sorta meh.
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-06-15 11:13:14
whats better for sam ws? foragers or smilodon's+1?
I was wondering how people get the 6-Hit build without TPing in the Hachiman Hands? Do you have to use a Rose strap or have the Usukane feet? The only Askar I have is the body.
These are my gear sets for reference, also 5/5 Store TP merits:
TP:
WS:
Also I am planning to upgrade to PCC/Sea Gorgets asap so will be losing the STP1 from Chiv Chain.
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