Help Me Improve My Mnk Plz
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Help me improve my mnk plz
Uh.. @Virtuosus Look at the ACC values for those, there's about a 2ACC difference. If that 2ACC makes a difference I'll switch to Togi and I forgot to mention but I have 8/8 H2H merits also.
Ah, perhaps it might work though. But just list that for the noobs out that might think that Asuran in K.O. is *OK* majority of the time, when it's only good under certain circumstances. Also, if you're really overdosing on the ACC, you can always add a Tiercel Necklace to achieve MNK's true haste cap.
Virtuosus said: Ah, perhaps it might work though. But just list that for the noobs out that might think that Asuran in K.O. is *OK* majority of the time, when it's only good under certain circumstances. Also, if you're really overdosing on the ACC, you can always add a Tiercel Necklace to achieve MNK's true haste cap. I'm way too lazy to do the calculations, so I'm not gonna say which choice is better. Either piece does help assuming your accuracy is capped though, was just a suggestion. Btw, it gives 0.6% haste to be exact for those wondering.
.6 exactly? you have a source on this? I thought diff haste gear was treated diff so for example if you reached 25% haste w/ full usu you'd have a diff decimal value as full haste w/ turban byakkko's fuma
It gives 0.6 because full Usu/BB MNk has 24.4% gear haste, not because the necklace only gives 0.6% haste. The actual value is likely 11/1024, the same as Blitz Ring.
No, not that, just that it'll give exactly .6% haste for a 25% haste mnk, because there isn't only one way to hit 25% haste.
For example, I saw a thread where haste gear had diff values. For example, take black belt 12% haste and compare it to vbelt + dusk homam hands + homam shoes = 12% haste. You'd have a different decimal value or is what I've read anyhow. So I was asking if it would ALWAYS be exactly .6 at 25% haste because mnk can reach 25% haste in more than one way. Actually there might be something to that.
FFXI Calculator shows 122/1024 with black belt, but only 121/1024 with dusk/homam hands + v belt + homam feet. Edit: although it's a very slight difference, it leads me to believe that haste values are treated differently per equipment slot, idk. On ffxi calc, entering each piece of usu, black belt, and 5% bonus seperately gives me 24.61% haste
Putting in 25 directly as 25 gives 25% haste Turban, black belt, byakko, fuma seperately give 24.61% haste In both 25% haste cases counting the gear separately, I'm getting 24.61, which would make the necklace less .39, not .6, which makes a pretty big diff in the increase you get. (seeing as .4 is 2/3 of .6) So, I shouldnt get that necklace? :3
Sylph.Kimble said: So, I shouldnt get that necklace? :3 If it's .4, then it loses to 1fstr yet alone anything you add w/ 5 str that has the possibility of adding 2 fstr. Both of those were calculated w/o the attack gained from the str as well. If .4, about equal if you throw in haste samba. If .6, clear winner if you throw in haste samba. I'm not sure what rng has to do with it. Rajas is a great ring for any DD job, mnk included.
But as it is now, if you exclude rajas it looks fine. Should get an Odin earring though its free and has more attack. Also, I'd make anther set using forager instead of cuchulain. Cuchulain is pretty situational and forager would be used more often (if you cap h2h merits and eat pizza regularly). For ws. Hissho hachimaki for sure, again odin earring and I'd make another set as well. Probably won't have enough acc to use justice torque EVERY TIME. I'd get a gorget for those other times. Sylph.Tigerwoods said: If it's .6 I'm fairly sure the 0.6% value came from an example of the value if '25%' gear haste for MNK on BG. I have no idea what the precise amount is, but I don't see why ffxi calc would be off. Sylph.Tigerwoods said: I'm not sure what rng has to do with it. Rajas is a great ring for any DD job, mnk included. But as it is now, if you exclude rajas it looks fine. Should get an Odin earring though its free and has more attack. Also, I'd make anther set using forager instead of cuchulain. Cuchulain is pretty situational and forager would be used more often (if you cap h2h merits and eat pizza regularly). For ws. Hissho hachimaki for sure, again odin earring and I'd make another set as well. Probably won't have enough acc to use justice torque EVERY TIME. I'd get a gorget for those other times. The earring is pretty easy to get. It's a reward choice from odin prime fight, so you can treat its difficulty as much as it would be to get an ifrit's blade or something from one of the other avatars
 Ah okies, I'll have to work on ToAu someday soon, been really lazy lately. x.x
Oh, and one last question. Would Faith Baghnakhs + Virtue Stone outparse Destroyers with exact same gear, excluding Black Tathlum from the Faith Baghnakhs set?
Yea, if you can keep a good supply of stones, faiths are the best you can do excluding relic and shenlongs (maybe mythic w/ the +dmg augment, but not sure about that)
What the *** is that 0.6% ***. Full usu is 130/1024 and BB is 123/1024 so full usu BB is 253/1024 which means tiercel necklace is 0.29 % haste since haste cap is 256/1024.
Also lol @ the comment on not ws in osode. It's probably the best ws body for almost all target since with mkd head, let alone pizza, accuracy is not an issue. D body is inferior because you are capping attack at ~550 due to ratio capping at 2.0 before level correction is applied. You obtain 550 by assuming dia3. Since you boost (+18.75% att) and you usually eat kabobs or pizza, you easily cap attack. Soon as you have chaos roll or berserk more attack is a waste. lol well at .29, necklace woudln't beat a stick in the ***
Black Belt is 122.
Full Usu is 130. Turban & Byakko's are 50 Fumas are 30 Usu feet are 20. Full Usu w/Black belt = 122+130 = 252 Using Fumas would be 122+50+50+30 = 252 Using Usu feet without full Usu would be 122+50+50+20 = 242 256 is cap, so Tiercel gives 4/1024 to the first two setups, and the full 10 (11?) to the third setup. It works out differently for other configs, such as using Velocious Belt, because haste values at 5% or less are X*10, whereas 6% and higher get an extra point rounded in (and Black Belt gets 2). VBelt is 6%, or 61/1024. No other piece (ignoring the one head piece with -10 acc) gives 6% or more, so using VBelt to reach 25% instead of BBelt will always end up at 251 instead of 252. mnk have a nice ws head piece from znm walgaru with acc/att. which is worthwhile looking at
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[40 days between previous and next post]I feel like a noob asking this but I was wondering if anyone ever tested Mirke vs. Shura Togi for TP build. I've read on here that Mirke is even better than Shura Togi+1. If anyone that has tested it or knows about it wanna give me a clean cut answer I would appreciate it. Just don't wanna get 75~ monk and be wearing a mirke and everyone like omfg what a noob and w/e. Sorry for bump
Mirke is better than togi+1, your reading was correct
Woohoo I turned down like 20 shura togi's like o I will never level mnk what a waste of space. I have mirke with attack and acc+10 for THF so I will just use that for monk until Usu body. Thanks for the reply :).
Tiger go into the math on that przz :3
I'm a Mirke monk and people often say I should get a shura togi... I assume it has to do with the base stat bonuses to STR/DEX and such. I've actually never heard that it was better than HQ togi. /curious Edit: Rather, I guess I'm looking for a brief explanation instead of a mathfest if that's what it is. |
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