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Askar Head for Samurai?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:02:06
Seraph.Rafik said: Here is what I dont understand why people who have kitty pants wear Usukane Hizayoroi when they do not have a full usu set..
Same goes for when they have turban and wear Usukane Somen before getting full usu. Makes me scratch my head. Hizayoroi over byakko's w/o full set is pretty much never. Usu mask though can win on mnk and nin if acc is low enough, but as acc approaches cap, turban.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2010-05-01 18:02:08
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: lol everyone subs /nin most of hte time while soloing...so whats the def ganna do xD reduce that hit or two u do take by like 20points?
a lot of ppl sub dnc while soloing now...unless a high NM
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-05-01 18:03:10
E-peen, usually. There's absolutely no reason to use Usulegs over Byakko's unless you're rocking full Usu because ACC is THAT bad or you're a BB MNK who caps haste without BYakko's.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 18:04:54
I'm surprised you haven't had an aneurysm with Dricent's posts yet Veg lol.
I honestly didn't think people thought askar head was better than turban these days :/
And lol @
Dricent said: See those of us with samurai know we dont need the extra 1% haste and need the str+4 because we get so much more tp per hit and have meditate so we would want to be full timing a head piece with str+4 rather than a haste+5% with no more usefull qualities. And as for the Vit+4.... the vit helps us survive a little longer since if you noticed samurai's tend to steal alot of hate
You steal hate?! lmao.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-01 18:05:14
and when you tell them what is better, they *** at you
well from my personal experience ; ;
talking about the usu...
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:05:47
Caitsith.Linear said: E-peen, usually. There's absolutely no reason to use Usulegs over Byakko's unless you're rocking full Usu because ACC is THAT bad or you're a BB MNK who caps haste without BYakko's. Only one combination of gear I know that can even do that, it's not easy to get, and it's still inferior.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-05-01 18:07:26
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: E-peen, usually. There's absolutely no reason to use Usulegs over Byakko's unless you're rocking full Usu because ACC is THAT bad or you're a BB MNK who caps haste without BYakko's. Only one combination of gear I know that can even do that, it's not easy to get, and it's still inferior.
Really? I was under the impression that full Usukane + BB was the optimal MNK build.
Oh well, I'm no MNK.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:08:34
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: E-peen, usually. There's absolutely no reason to use Usulegs over Byakko's unless you're rocking full Usu because ACC is THAT bad or you're a BB MNK who caps haste without BYakko's. Only one combination of gear I know that can even do that, it's not easy to get, and it's still inferior.
Really? I was under the impression that full Usukane BB was the optimal MNK build.
Oh well, I'm no MNK. No, I was referring to the capped haste w/o byakko's, that isn't full usu (nor /drg).
As for full usu, it's superior 95% of the time, but there's other builds that will win situationally. (For example, I just put together a build that beats full usu w/ focus up only on greater colibri)
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-05-01 18:11:22
Ah. I was only referring to BB MNKs capping haste with full Usu.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:12:48
Ah kk, you got me confused Quote: or you're a BB MNK who caps haste without BYakko's. After already mentioning full usu before it, made me think you knew of the other capped haste build that I was thinking of, the one I said that wasn't worth it, lol. There's some augment 3% haste gloves you can get that'd let you cap haste w/ usu legs. Comes from past fights not fields of valor though.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-01 18:14:17
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: No, I was referring to the capped haste w/o byakko's, that isn't full usu (nor /drg).
As for full usu, it's superior 95% of the time, but there's other builds that will win situationally. (For example, I just put together a build that beats full usu w/ focus up only on greater colibri) Would it still work with agressor (I know that's making large assumptions about evasion of mobs at you are lvling on at lvl 90+ and doesn't count gear you might get by then etc)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:15:42
Well not really, the build in question is catered specifically to colibri. It may not work on the new mobs. For example, it doesn't work on wivre, I swap back to full usu for them.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-01 18:15:42
Mind showing the set? I'm curious as to what it looks like.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-01 18:16:04
you mean focus right? agressor is war...
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-05-01 18:16:38
He means at 99 /WAR
Edit: Isn't there also a 2% haste neck piece?
Nvm 1%.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-01 18:19:31
mnk/war or sam/war?
cause mnk/war is asking for death.... in the not so sweet party
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-05-01 18:19:38
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=11578
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-05-01 18:20:47
Yeah ty found it
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By Fairy.Basilo 2010-05-01 18:21:09
Edit: Isn't there also a 2% haste neck piece?
Right so whats your point with this?
In before limited use for monk, mebe mnk with cast cell in salvage floor 1 Arrapago.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-01 18:22:22
Seraph.Rafik said: mnk/war or sam/war?
cause mnk/war is asking for death.... in the not so sweet party
Not so much really :/
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:23:14
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Mind showing the set? I'm curious as to what it looks like. I'll make the item set for it now
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-05-01 18:24:26
Fairy.Basilo said: Right so whats your point with this?
In before limited use for monk, mebe mnk with cast cell in salvage floor 1 Arrapago.
Point being to show another useless set that could cap Haste without Haidate maybe? It can't anyway.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-01 18:26:24
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Seraph.Rafik said: mnk/war or sam/war?
cause mnk/war is asking for death.... in the not so sweet party
Not so much really :/
mnks start subbing nin around lv 60+ and you dont go /war to some pick up meripo unless the rest of the dd pull their wait
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:27:11
W/ dia II/III and chaos roll + kabob, this'll beat out full usu for birds w/ focus up by 2-6% depending on other conditions.
My set is a variation of this, missing the earring and dex 6 ring and is sidegrade to full usu (so I still use it for fun since its the same dmg and crit crit yay).
Basically 24% haste w/ 30% crit rate
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 18:27:37
Seraph.Rafik said: Bismarck.Dracondria said: Seraph.Rafik said: mnk/war or sam/war?
cause mnk/war is asking for death.... in the not so sweet party
Not so much really :/
mnks start subbing nin around lv 60 and you dont go /war to some pick up meripo unless the rest of the dd pull their wait
I never /nin until Meripo unless we didn't have a tank.
/war speeds the party up substantially. And I was actually well geared until 75 lol.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-01 18:29:00
That looks like a fun set to use lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:30:03
My current one is basically the same, but swap earring for odin earring (7 attack), swap ring to thunder, then swap bkote for enkidu mitts. Same crit rate, but less attack.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-01 18:32:07
How high is a RC war's crit rate anyway? With 117 dex of course and maybe using a Zahak's.
Edit: Unsure if that 3% from Zahak's will add to the dex or not <_<
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-01 18:33:20
capped crits @ 117 dex on birds is 20% crit rate. The rest is simple addition. 4% merits, and 3% zhak makes for 27.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-05-01 18:35:09
lol way to stray off topic from askar head for sam :P
i thought just occured to me~
in merit pt~ would walahra and askar be situational based on the party setup?
I'm just posting to ask a question really, its quite simple for tping on samurai Askar Head or W turban?
Ive noticed a lot of discussions or jokes about people using denali bonnet over W turban and ive never seen anything bad about using Askar head.
My main question is for samurai, but war,drk and drg im also interested in I just dont have them levelled.
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