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Cerberus.Shaunessy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2
By Cerberus.Shaunessy 2020-12-21 15:54:12
It was a bad idea, tbf...
FFXI would never fit well in a small cellphone window.
Plus, none can afford 5 years waiting.
I play on my phone all the time. It fits fine.
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Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-21 16:07:29
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »So just to be curious, do they create remasters and niche games because they want to express themselves artistically? Why doesn't every company try to copy the annoying games like Fortnite and Amoogus to please the gen z crowd? I've seen it thrown around a lot that FFXI would be a waste of time and not profitable to remaster or do anything drastic, but SE does it all the time for older games and IP that have made much less overall money than XI.
In the games industry there's actually a pretty good reason why this happens, and it's a familiar concept from good ol' Business Management 101: diversification.
The conception of "small business = artistic, large business = risk-averse" is generally true, but Square-Enix still has an incentive to try new things and expand their reach. A few reasons:
The company has a brand image to maintain, and they don't want to pigeonhole themselves into being exactly "those Final Fantasy guys"
Big Japanese studios like Square-Enix usually have a number of in-house development teams working in parallel, each working on a different project. This allows them to branch out and tap into different audience subpopulations of the larger gaming audience, so they can have multiple revenue streams that don't rely on each other. For example, if Final Fantasy 16 comes out and is a financial bust, it won't sink the company, because they still have other revenue streams (like Nier, Dragon Quest, FF4 remakes) that don't depend on the success of Final Fantasy 16
Funding weird, creative games is an example of a low-cost, high-EV venture. If you decide to give a crazy idea a chance, you don't lose a whole lot of money, but you stand to benefit TREMENDOUSLY if that idea catches on. Basically, "unicorn hunting." It doesn't happen often, which is why it doesn't see as big an investment as the core teams, but the EV is generally worth it to invest strategically. A great example is Capcom... their bread and butter (no pun intended) is Street Fighter, but they decided to invest in a strange little game called Gyakuten Saiban (Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney), and they hit the jackpot. Enough to make the Ace Attorney concept a fully realized IP, which is still profitable to them
I pretty much hate the AAA games industry for a general lack of creativity, but strictly speaking, there is a reason why the entire industry isn't completely homogenous. Artistic intent isn't a first-order principle for a megacorporation, but the corporation still stands to benefit from exploiting artistic intent from ambitious employees as a matter of strategic investment.
"Don't put all your eggs in one basket," etc.
Devs have been moved from most SquareEnix projects to focus on their new whale: Pony Friends 3 MMO!
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Server: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
Posts: 665
By Idiot Boy 2020-12-21 16:19:45
You don't think a Pony Friends MMO would make an absolutely absurd amount of money? They should put some devs on that.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2020-12-21 16:29:50
***if the train simulator is any indication...
Quote: Train Simulator will let you rule the railways for $1. It will cost a bit more to get all 569 add-ons. Train Simulator 2020, the latest version of Dovetail's 2009 railway romp, has a lot of DLC. 569 items are listed on Steam, amounting to an eye-watering $10,145
They could sell 569 different ponies and "trails" easily.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-21 18:59:36
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-12-21 19:32:14
Tracking the evolution of ffxiah threads is something that belongs in the studies of a Quantum Physics department. I literally think just observing a thread completely changes the direction and spin just like observing elemental particles.
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1388
By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2020-12-21 19:56:36
They canceled FFXI mobile in lieu of FFXI 2.0! They are going to do to FFXI what they did to FFXIV 1.0 back in the day!! A full re-hash!
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By Idiot Boy 2020-12-21 19:57:02
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »Tracking the evolution of ffxiah threads is something that belongs in the studies of a Quantum Physics department. I literally think just observing a thread completely changes the direction and spin just like observing elemental particles. The mental model I've always used for it is like a meter filling up. Different things build the meter at different rates.
Anyone posts: +1
Thread pages: +10
Aeonova meme: +5
Rooks +1s something without commenting: +2
Someone mentions Asura: +3
Rooks tells people to calm the *** down but doesn't ban anyone: +15
Eiryl posts something spicy: +8
Vize is the OP: +70, no cooldown on re-applying
etc
When it fills up, the gods throw a dart at a board, and send a wild hair up the *** of one of the usual miscreants, and now the thread is about how Ubisoft is running underground bear-fighting rings with the Assassin's Creed profits, and that's why AAA games are so expensive now.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-21 23:06:33
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »Tracking the evolution of ffxiah threads is something that belongs in the studies of a Quantum Physics department. I literally think just observing a thread completely changes the direction and spin just like observing elemental particles.
You're friggin' welcome for this.
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 3753
By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-12-22 00:57:22
Leviathan.Draugo
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2775
By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-12-22 01:37:46
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »Tracking the evolution of ffxiah threads is something that belongs in the studies of a Quantum Physics department. I literally think just observing a thread completely changes the direction and spin just like observing elemental particles. The mental model I've always used for it is like a meter filling up. Different things build the meter at different rates.
Anyone posts: +1
Thread pages: +10
Aeonova meme: +5
Rooks +1s something without commenting: +2
Someone mentions Asura: +3
Rooks tells people to calm the *** down but doesn't ban anyone: +15
Eiryl posts something spicy: +8
Vize is the OP: +70, no cooldown on re-applying
etc
When it fills up, the gods throw a dart at a board, and send a wild hair up the *** of one of the usual miscreants, and now the thread is about how Ubisoft is running underground bear-fighting rings with the Assassin's Creed profits, and that's why AAA games are so expensive now.
Only 1 meter? or several subjective meters, that each contribute to a whole meter of *** given or not?
Leviathan.Draugo
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2775
By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-12-22 01:38:42
You don't think a Pony Friends MMO would make an absolutely absurd amount of money? They should put some devs on that. Seems like predator mode ultra, but who knows, furries are people too!
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By Idiot Boy 2020-12-22 08:06:42
Only 1 meter? or several subjective meters, that each contribute to a whole meter of *** given or not? The science remains unsettled on this matter.
Seems like predator mode ultra, but who knows, furries are people too! I mean, being serious for a moment, it's not impossible to kid-safe a game if you're willing to truly lock it down. You just go the Nintendo route and drastically restrict any ability to interact. No open text boxes, reeeeal careful QA around emotes, allow only positive interactions (like how we have the +1 but the -1 is gone), etc. It just requires a willingness to sacrifice features, and that's where most developers trip up.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-22 08:24:41
allow only positive interactions (like how we have the +1 but the -1 is gone
-1 in spirit as it lives on in the 1.0 votes for screenshots that have not even been approved (only visible as thumbnails until approved yet still get 1.0 votes).
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Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-12-22 08:41:18
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »Tracking the evolution of ffxiah threads is something that belongs in the studies of a Quantum Physics department. I literally think just observing a thread completely changes the direction and spin just like observing elemental particles.
You're friggin' welcome for this.
Mystic Quest!!!
By Thunderjet 2020-12-22 09:16:52
They have multiple games set in Ivalice. It wouldn't be a giant stretch to think that they wouldn't release something major in the world of Vana'diel. Fa'diel is the name of the world at least some of the "Mana" series games take place in.
Neat idea. WHAT which mana?
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-22 10:21:06
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2020-12-22 11:58:15
You don't think a Pony Friends MMO would make an absolutely absurd amount of money? They should put some devs on that.
There equestranauts!
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Asura.Karppa
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 338
By Asura.Karppa 2020-12-24 16:41:23
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By Thunderjet 2020-12-25 01:55:07
SO UR SAYING THE TREE IN WINDURST COULD BE THE MANA TREE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER REEEEEEEEE
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Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-12-25 03:55:02
Gonna have to amend my image above to include Finnish "merry christmas" and the Mana Tree.
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Asura.Karppa
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 338
By Asura.Karppa 2020-12-31 14:49:46
Gonna have to amend my image above to include Finnish "merry christmas" and the Mana Tree.
糞っ垂れ
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By Chaplin 2021-01-24 12:58:28
Unfortunate side effect of taking too long.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34
By Asura.Kegfreak 2021-02-10 07:14:44
I played it on my phone via team viewer. Playability on the phone is not the question. I Bluetooth’d a controller to my phone, made it the input and went from there. Also I saw in the past, people installing FFXI on windows based phone and tablets.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2021-03-23 07:43:30
I still find it hilarious that "quality" is the "sited reason".
The balls on them to claim that when they show their *** on XI the way they do.
I mean sure, quality of how it's made and quality of how it's run are different. It's still incredibly disingenuous.
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By Foxfire 2021-03-23 08:24:55
it was never going to be "ffxi, but on your phone"
all the early concept shots showed your standard gacha elements. energy, premium currency, etc.
my guess is that the scope wasn't feasible and they gave up sinking money into it.
it definitely wasn't because "it wasn't up to our fan's standards", lol.
makes them look better on press release to pretend they did this for fans tho
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By Asura.Aeonova 2021-03-23 08:34:28
Fenrir.Jinxs
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 535
By Fenrir.Jinxs 2021-03-23 08:35:24
I for one am glad this project is cancelled. Having peaked at a few of their other remakes this would have been an insult.
That being said... a think tank of users and developers on how to make cloud/remote phone play more friendly would be awesome.
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By Idiot Boy 2021-03-23 08:38:26
Generally speaking I would agree with the "quality" excuse being BS, but not in this case. Yoshida runs that division now, and he knows firsthand what a bad entry in the series does to the brand. He's also spent the last decade-ish of his life FIXING that brand. He was never going to let them Nexon it up.
The second he got veto power over this thing, it was DOA. I called it two years ago!
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