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By Buffyslyph 2020-08-25 21:55:39
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Would Hachirin-no-Obi be BiS for waist for Leaden Salute in Dynamis?
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By SimonSes 2020-08-25 22:19:03
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Short answer: yes

Long answer: Its generally the best for average and consistence damage, but other belts (Orpheus's sash being by far the strongest if you are close to target) will produce higher spikes.
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By Asura.Crowned 2020-08-26 05:06:37
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SimonSes said: »
(Orpheus's sash being by far the strongest if you are close to target) will produce higher spikes.
How so?
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By SimonSes 2020-08-26 05:31:30
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Asura.Crowned said: »
SimonSes said: »
(Orpheus's sash being by far the strongest if you are close to target) will produce higher spikes.
How so?

Obi makes weather proc 100%, but without Obi weather still proc 33% of the time. So whenever weather proc on top of Orpehus's Sash you will do much more damage than with Obi.
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By Shiva.Eightball 2020-08-26 10:39:15
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I am not 100% sure on how opposing day/weather effects work, most likely they proc separately which would make dark day +x2 weather 35% and lightsday + x2 dark 15%, for some reason I had a thought that they sorta worked like Opposite Day cancels out a weather making it a single weather bonus of 10%.

If it’s the former then Orpheus sash is equal to Obi on lightsday but if it’s the latter sash is better than obi on lightsday, assuming 0 distance.
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By Phoenix.Vespajava 2020-08-26 11:43:17
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tbf, BiS comes with a caveat: You need ALL the parts that compliment a beatass Leaden Salute set,(Death Penalty, JSE, rolled gears, Pixie +1, Archon, et al) and then you get to have a marginal WS thats useless against meva+/MDB+ enemies. Weighing the decision to buy O-sash should be accompanied by use that isnt limited in its applications. Obi goes a long ways. 1200~ TP AM3 LS and "biS" minus O-sash gets it done well in to w2 mobs, and still one-shotting stats, cause... COR =/ Atleast thats how I prioritize need > want and enemy mobs as Dyna goes. Sash isnt making a crappy LS set 'OK' without all the peripherals. Focus on the whole package... and less on the .15% ele WSD mod. Cheers~
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By Felgarr 2020-08-26 12:51:57
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In my mind, there are a few primary ways to play CORSAIR currently:

1.) Strictly Melee (usually savage blade or other melee WS spam).
2.) Ranged (shooting, WS'ing with Leaden Salute against magical or Last Stand against physical enemies; Other WSes matter too).
3.) Melee+Ranged (This is what I've witnessed lots of folks do in Dynamis, where they melee-TP on everything and WS-spam Leaden Salute in Dynamis).

I could see Orpheus Sash mostly helping in the #3 situation and you're also in direct competition with your LS mates, who engages first, who uses packet-WS, who needs to manually target a mob before WS'ing, all factor to into who's going to claim that enemies' HP bar. (#1, strictly meleeing, but using orpheus sash for elemental sword WS on COR seems silly, but is technically valid).

For Orpheus Sash specifically, it helps with:

1.) Other elemental WSes (Sanguine/Burning/Shining Blade, etc) and less so, for WSes that might be > 15 yalms away, like Wildfire, Trueflight.
2.) Both black elemental and blue magic (elemental magic, not non-physical spells).

So, you can draw from this, that a lot of jobs who tend to have a close proximity to a mobe and deal elemental-specific damage, can greatly benefit from its' use (Max 15% is around ~1.7-1.9 yalms IIRC).

However, if you don't play those jobs or don't have a multitude of uses for Orpheus Sash, then I would stick to the current best case scenario for waist item logic:

1.) Use Hachirin-no-obi if weather permitting (but also, no corresponding day-element penalty).
2.) Otherwise, use INT/MAB for magic or proper/appropriate WS modifier for said elemental action.

Just my two cents.
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