Not sure which of these I will pick in the end.
Any info on past pleasant / poor experiences with these or similar models welcomed.
Removing the bit of bloatware just takes a few hours at most, then it's gone forever or at least until I have need to do a factory restore which is hopefully never.
ACER 1:
ACER 2: same appearance to other ACER
OMEN by HP:
$1900
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor
GTX 1070 8 GB
32 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 16 GB)
2 TB HDD storage; 256 GB SSD storage
not gonna bother with asus img; reason below.
ASUS: couldn't find anybody that sells it with the UHD screen. so I don't even know if I'd be willing to pay w/e price they offer it at.
I looked at the laptops from SAGER, the price is slightly higher than these to have similar specs; and it doesn't have any extra macro keys and arrow keys aren't pushed out which is a feature I like.
Also checked Alienware, MSI, RAZER, ORIGIN, AORUS, GIGABYTE, & Lenovo.
either too expensive or similar price but no extra macro keys / arrow keys are shrunk or shoved into number pad.