[Dev] SMN: Good News And Bad News

Eorzea Time
 
 
 
Language: JP EN FR DE
Version 3.1
New Items
users online
Forum » FFXI » Jobs » Summoner » [Dev] SMN: Good News and Bad News
[Dev] SMN: Good News and Bad News
First Page 2
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 13:30:51
Link | Quote | Reply
 
08-29-2012 01:02 PM
[source]
Okipuit
Community Rep

Hello summoners,

The most recent road map had scheduled for Cait Sith to be implemented around the July to August time frame; however, implementation will be delayed.

As we had a large amount of other things and various requests to work on, we were unable to secure enough time for this and had to lower the priority of Cait Sith.

We apologize for everyone who was looking forward to it.

Once we get some insight into the new implementation timing we will be sure to make an announcement.

Changing the topic for a moment, in the next test server update we will be reducing the recast times for avatars and spirits to a uniform 5 seconds. (Except Odin and Alexander)

While there may not be a big feeling of difference for using multiple avatars, it will become more efficient to switch to an avatar temporarily and then call out a previously used one right away. This will also be quite effective when using the new 2-hour ability, as your Blood Pact timers will be reduced as well, opening up paths for application.
Subscribe

For those who don't know:
Avatars: 30 sec > 5 sec
Spirits: 10 sec > 5 sec
[+]
 Shiva.Viciousss
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Viciouss
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-08-29 13:38:27
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Thanks for telling us at the end of August that Cait Sith was delayed, as if we hadn't already figured that out.
[+]
 Sylph.Wardeniii
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
user: Wardeniii
Posts: 363
By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-29 13:45:01
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Thanks for telling us at the end of August that Cait Sith was delayed, as if we hadn't already figured that out.

[+]
 Bismarck.Arminius
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: Raef
Posts: 23
By Bismarck.Arminius 2012-08-29 14:00:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I think they need to quit using the plural and start using the singular...

"We were The guy we have in charge of redoing the game was having great difficulty establishing more balanced adjustments too busy with the stuff he was supposed to have done in April, so we have been forced to delay implementation blah blah blah he had his lunch cut from ten minutes to five, and we took away his stapler...
[+]
 Quetzalcoatl.Absolutezero
Offline
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 183
By Quetzalcoatl.Absolutezero 2012-08-29 14:11:56
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I wonder what requests they were referring to. Seems like they shoot down every idea the players suggest.
[+]
 Caitsith.Heimdall
Offline
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
user: Heimdall
Posts: 1318
By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-08-29 14:17:49
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I just want a stay command for avatars so you can have them doing favors/bps without them actually attacking a mob and feeding it tp or haveing the smn standing in dmg range.
[+]
 Sylph.Chrisstreb
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1697
By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2012-08-29 14:19:00
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bismarck.Arminius said: »
I think they need to quit using the plural and start using the singular...

"We were The guy we have in charge of redoing the game was having great difficulty establishing more balanced adjustments too busy with the stuff he was supposed to have done in April, so we have been forced to delay implementation blah blah blah he had his lunch cut from ten minutes to five, and we took away his stapler...
If you could come in on Saturday and Sunday.. that be great
[+]
 Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar
Offline
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Milliniar
Posts: 262
By Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar 2012-08-29 14:36:25
Link | Quote | Reply
 
i would've said do cait sith, then do the other stuff if i was in charge...
 Sylph.Safiyyah
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
user: Safiyyah
Posts: 1119
By Sylph.Safiyyah 2012-08-29 14:42:37
Link | Quote | Reply
 
SE doesn't care about summoner. That's what I'm getting.
 Cerberus.Thore
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: thore147
Posts: 75
By Cerberus.Thore 2012-08-29 14:45:34
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Has Okipuit ever had a post that wasn't about bad news?
[+]
 Fairy.Ghaleon
Offline
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
user: MisterRyu
Posts: 2742
By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-08-29 14:49:16
Link | Quote | Reply
 
hopefully they lower bp timers a bit, (or reduce the cap) so that this would actually be a bit more useful in switching avatars lol.
[+]
 Siren.Buddah
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Buddah278
Posts: 34
By Siren.Buddah 2012-08-29 14:50:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Quote:
As we had a large amount of other things and various requests to work on, we were unable to secure enough time for this and had to lower the priority of Cait Sith.
We apologize for everyone who was looking forward to it.


Caitsith.Heimdall said: »
I just want a stay command for avatars...

Dear Dev Team;
Can i has zerk for my RNG? It wud be better'er. kthxbye
 Odin.Eikechi
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Eike
Posts: 9265
By Odin.Eikechi 2012-08-29 15:20:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
hopefully they lower bp timers a bit, (or reduce the cap) so that this would actually be a bit more useful in switching avatars lol.

But doesn't the new 2h make them constantly at 0 like chainspell? The dev note said "to be better used with the new 2h" didn't it (or something to that effect)?
 Quetzalcoatl.Zubis
Offline
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Zubis
Posts: 235
By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2012-08-29 15:31:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Thore said: »
Has Okipuit ever had a post that wasn't about bad news?

He's the new guy, probably gets a lot of crap thrown at him :p
 Bismarck.Leneth
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
By Bismarck.Leneth 2012-08-29 19:32:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The title needs to be changed, no good news in here <.<
I would have been happy about a 5 seconds recast timer in 2004 when the only method of increasing Summoning Magic Skill was via casting Spirits and Avatars..

Also it is quite ironic that suggestions of summoners were declined due to Cait Sith being the top priority.... <.<
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 19:36:25
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bismarck.Leneth said: »
The title needs to be changed, no good news in here <.<
I would have been happy about a 5 seconds recast timer in 2004 when the only method of increasing Summoning Magic Skill was via casting Spirits and Avatars..
Explain to me how lowering the recast time is bad news and I'll request a change.
 Shiva.Viciousss
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Viciouss
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-08-29 19:53:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Its more like decent news and no news.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 20:11:11
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its more like decent news and no news.
So you think I should name it Decent News and No News?
 Valefor.Prothescar
Guide Master
Offline
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 19378
By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-29 20:11:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Always wonder what makes avatars multi-year development affairs.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 20:12:50
Link | Quote | Reply
 
It gets in the way of playing Solitaire at work.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 853
By Avitori 2012-08-29 20:17:31
Link | Quote | Reply
 
hahahahaha

SE you lazy f***s
 Bismarck.Leneth
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
By Bismarck.Leneth 2012-08-29 20:18:00
Link | Quote | Reply
 
It is pretty useless, as a Summoner can work around it quite easily with casting an equally strong Avatar. When Summoners didn't have the time to create enough distance after a cast of a new Avatar the only time which was being an issue was the casting time of a new pet, most likely a Light Spirit.

Even within the new 2hr it has barely a use as you can recast the first Avatar once, if it dies a second time you can call out the second 5/5 merrited Avatar. If the Avatar should die a third time within 30 seconds the summoner must be dead as well (due to the mob being to close, or you are within AoE range of what killed your Avatar as you can not create enough distance in such a case) or 2hr is over.

I did not say it was bad news, just that it isn't a good one for summoners as it is beeing too useless. It just makes a rare issue more comfortable, but it isn't something needed.
I'm sorry if you felt offended by my earlier post, that was not intended.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 20:20:22
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I'm not offended, but if people think the title should be different then I'll change it. That's all really.
 Asura.Myrrh
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Myrrhic
Posts: 280
By Asura.Myrrh 2012-08-29 20:25:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I'm not picking a fight, just an observation.. Each time SE updates us with whatever it is they want to call updates, I am yet to see someone say anything positive. They are lazy, don't care blah blah... Things gets delayed, it's life. So we have to wait a little longer, who cares.

I been meaning to say that, but I feel most need to vent and *** about something. Continue living at home and complain about how bad mom's porridge is. (Best analogy I could come up with this tired.)
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 20:31:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I agree that there is a lot of negativity towards these posts, but I can't blame them. SE gives us a lil hope and rubs it in the dirt afterwards.

We are going to make storage available in all mog houses!

*2 years later*

We still plan on doing this, don't worry!

It just gets old.
[+]
 Shiva.Viciousss
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Viciouss
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-08-29 20:32:20
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Call it whatever, nothing is going to beat the title of the rdm thread.
 Asura.Calatilla
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Calatilla
Posts: 2507
By Asura.Calatilla 2012-08-29 20:34:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I don't really see how this changes anything currently for smn. If your avatar dies before the recast is ready just cast another avatar or wait for the recast. If you're solo'ing and your pet dies in the 30 second window then you're either using the wrong avatar or the mob is too strong to solo.

If, which is probably the case, this is just in line with the new 2hr allowing you to chain-cast avatars then fair enough.

Edit: I'm sure someone is going to point out something really obvious, so please enlighten me.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-08-29 20:36:31
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Sylph.Chrisstreb said: »
Bismarck.Arminius said: »
I think they need to quit using the plural and start using the singular...

"We were The guy we have in charge of redoing the game was having great difficulty establishing more balanced adjustments too busy with the stuff he was supposed to have done in April, so we have been forced to delay implementation blah blah blah he had his lunch cut from ten minutes to five, and we took away his stapler...
If you could come in on Saturday and Sunday.. that be great


[+]
 Leviathan.Tohihroyu
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 355
By Leviathan.Tohihroyu 2012-08-29 20:37:41
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Who didn't see this coming?

Whats next? "Oh by the way Cait Sith will be 2 hour only, that screenshot you saw was only a ruse~ As for Atmos, well we never promised you that and PS Cait Sith will be weaker than Carbuncle w"
 Asura.Myrrh
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Myrrhic
Posts: 280
By Asura.Myrrh 2012-08-29 20:45:02
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Leviathan.Tohihroyu said: »
Who didn't see this coming?

Whats next? "Oh by the way Cait Sith will be 2 hour only, that screenshot you saw was only a ruse~ As for Atmos, well we never promised you that and PS Cait Sith will be weaker than Carbuncle w"

Thou hast stirred a bloody rage in me! Thou shalt not insult the radioactive squirrel!

Had to.
First Page 2