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 Leviathan.Melisenna
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 01:31:34
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I'm wondering if anyone has made a smn burn since the update giving higher exp outside of abyssea. Im curious if in the past we were getting 10-24 in one party, what are the results now? Is it possible to burn jobs 10-30+?
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-05-15 01:33:04
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It's possible to exp the normal way 10-30+.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 01:38:58
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I would imagine so, yes. Possibly further if the EXP for the mobs is generous, and I'm sure a +100% Bonus ring helps :3
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By Gilgamesh.Xenhas 2011-05-15 01:41:30
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I think by mentioning smn burns, the OP doesn't care about normal exp 10-30+.

I might be wrong though.

Also been curious as to burning up some jobs with my LS's mules actually, we were wondering if you even need 3 smns to 2hr since the exp boost to hit 19.

Any info by people who have done it since the exp boost would be great!

inb4 smn burn >> abyssea burn makes you gimp.
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By Shiroineko 2011-05-15 01:41:40
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Hai, far as I know SE hasn't messed with SMN burns. It's still possible.
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 01:43:22
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Fenrir.Enternius said:
It's possible to exp the normal way 10-30+.
k cool. cause i thought you could only burn, thanks for your input ^^
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2011-05-15 01:44:05
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Possibility aside. is 10/12-30 in one burn possible nowadays? :3
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By Bahamut.Ayina 2011-05-15 01:45:41
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Carbuncle.Xenhas said:
Possibility aside. is 10/12-30 in one burn possible nowadays? :3
Exp would die before you could hit that high I'd imagine.
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By Shiroineko 2011-05-15 01:50:40
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Don't think so. Even with COR roll 11 and Anniversary+Empress, the highest could get was ~24 from 11-12. Even if you used all 3 rings plus max roll in a single burn you wouldn't get to 30, I can 99% guarantee it.
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 01:50:56
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Bahamut.Ayina said:
Exp would die before you could hit that high I'd imagine.
thats something Ive been thinking. I think some testing of this is in order.
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By Shiroineko 2011-05-15 01:51:24
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Now, if you were like my group and figured out a way to smn burn from 24-30+ in yhoater jungle burn.. THEN it's possible ;)

I'm telling you though, it's not for amateur groups!
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 01:54:15
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Eh I remember the yhoater groups. They were great but you need a group who knows the map... and pulls. That and the pulls are slow as hell. But the EXP was higher than the tunnel.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 01:54:34
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Bahamut.Ayina said:
Carbuncle.Xenhas said:
Possibility aside. is 10/12-30 in one burn possible nowadays? :3
Exp would die before you could hit that high I'd imagine.
Not necessarily... if you can kill with enough speed in the window that you are still your lower-level self, the bonus of IT-mob kills paired with an EXP ring could get you close, and I'm pretty sure they still con DC around Lv27-- assuming we're talking about the Tunnel.
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By Shiroineko 2011-05-15 01:55:55
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Leviathan.Melisenna said:
Eh I remember the yhoater groups. They were great but you need a group who knows the map... and pulls. That and the pulls are slow as hell. But the EXP was higher than the tunnel.

You also need a holder that knows what he's doing. The hate is different in Yhoater than the Tunnel, it's very easy to screw up.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 01:56:13
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Shiroineko said:
Don't think so. Even with COR roll 11 and Anniversary+Empress, the highest could get was ~24 from 11-12. Even if you used all 3 rings plus max roll in a single burn you wouldn't get to 30, I can 99% guarantee it.
You seem to forget that the EXP was re-worked.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-05-15 01:59:59
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Shiroineko said:
Don't think so. Even with COR roll 11 and Anniversary+Empress, the highest could get was ~24 from 11-12. Even if you used all 3 rings plus max roll in a single burn you wouldn't get to 30, I can 99% guarantee it.
You seem to forget that the EXP was re-worked.
That doesn't mean xp will stop from dying off. It depends on how mean the curve is from EP mobs
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By Hades.Stefanos 2011-05-15 02:00:02
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Shiroineko said:
Don't think so. Even with COR roll 11 and Anniversary+Empress, the highest could get was ~24 from 11-12. Even if you used all 3 rings plus max roll in a single burn you wouldn't get to 30, I can 99% guarantee it.
You seem to forget that the EXP was re-worked.

That could be where the 1% comes in, since he did say he was 99% certain.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 02:03:07
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All mobs in the pull are Lv28-31, they aren't going to be TW, nor EP at Lv30 (Not that you'll be killing them at LV30 anyways...).
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-05-15 02:08:47
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Oops, they could be DC though, which would make them unchainable still :(
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 02:11:38
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Cerberus.Eugene said:
Oops, they could be DC though, which would make them unchainable still :(
Point being, EXP was reworked, IT mobs give 400+ without chain, Added with +100% Bonus, 11 COR Roll, and consistent chains at the lower level volleys should give 880 per at the very least. (And considering they gave 300~ before the EXP Update in the earlier volleys, I'm sure it will be a lot higher that the minimum I gave)
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-05-15 02:16:39
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There's still a curve though, just because you get better xp initially doesn't necessarily mean the xp overall at the bottom of the curve will be enough. You'll ding faster in a summoner burn, but that means you'll get higher level faster and the mobs will give less xp more quickly.

I'm not saying that for sure it won't be enough, it's possible that the overall boost to xp on the lower end will still be enough to carry you through. I'm saying you'd have to try it and see.
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By Leviathan.Korialstrasz 2011-05-15 02:51:22
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I'd imagine it's definitely possible. Not only do we get more exp per kill, but that old hard cap of 200 exp/kill (before exp chain/ring) is gone (or just raised really effing high). Sure, exp will drop off faster, but you'll still end up with more in the end either way.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-05-15 02:54:43
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Leviathan.Korialstrasz said:
I'd imagine it's definitely possible. Not only do we get more exp per kill, but that old hard cap of 200 exp/kill (before exp chain/ring) is gone (or just raised really effing high). Sure, exp will drop off faster, but you'll still end up with more in the end either way.
Hard Cap on EXP wasn't 200 lol
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By Leviathan.Korialstrasz 2011-05-15 02:58:49
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Leviathan.Korialstrasz said:
I'd imagine it's definitely possible. Not only do we get more exp per kill, but that old hard cap of 200 exp/kill (before exp chain/ring) is gone (or just raised really effing high). Sure, exp will drop off faster, but you'll still end up with more in the end either way.
Hard Cap on EXP wasn't 200 lol
Really? At those lvls I remember it always being impossible to get higher than 200 unless you had ring, cor roll, exp chain etc.

Edit: Old info is even still on old wiki. 200 was the cap from 1-50, 250 from 51-60, and 300 from 61-75.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-05-15 03:43:18
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I remember always getting 300 base exp from those mobs during smn burns.
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-05-15 03:48:12
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I bet if you had competent pullers and literally pulled everything (ghosts and such also, which a lot of ppl skip), definitely possible. Hard to get the pullers and tank to do it though, since its meh. Ghosts are hard for me because if i rest (even with the GM mode on) i get locked, so i gave up trying them a long time ago.
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 04:00:31
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I believe when you hit 300 it was related to chain + rolls/rings etc
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-05-15 04:47:36
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Oh noes you can't talk about smn burns or SE might notice them!!!

Oh wait, it's 2011 no one cares.
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By Leviathan.Melisenna 2011-05-15 06:11:27
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I really though people who felt smn burns were wrong had all given up their battle when abyssea leeching started.
I wonder if they adhere to their principles and sit lfp for 80+ hours to get to 90 on a new job. Since essentially that is what you will do nowadays to lvl 'properly'.
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By Carbuncle.Ronson 2011-05-15 06:22:20
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Leviathan.Melisenna said:
I really though people who felt smn burns were wrong had all given up their battle when abyssea leeching started.
I wonder if they adhere to their principles and sit lfp for 80+ hours to get to 90 on a new job. Since essentially that is what you will do nowadays to lvl 'properly'.

back in the day when we used to smn burn we used to hit 25K+(might of been more im not sure xp a pull in the tunnel iirc,10 minute repop 20 minute pull,3 minutes to wipe out most of the zone from 9-12 astralflow blasts.think the max chains we were getting was maybe 150 chain.get the lvl sync to change jobs and a cor to reset everyones 2hr,rinse and repaet.i can 100% garantee the xp will be epic-er than before.i got smn from 15-75 in 4 days.

inb4skillgimped your not capped(took me a week to skill up...)

makes me laugh my arse off seeing all the whining B**chs who moaned about smn burns sat in abby all day afk
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