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 Caitsith.Heimdall
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2009-11-25 14:46:45
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what is the proper use of this and what gear should u have to go with it and when?
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By Seraph.Helixx 2009-11-25 15:14:07
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Use Melee gaiters when initiating counterstance, you will receive a +10% bonus on Counterstance.

Gear: Acc helps counter procc, trying to raise acc will help counters to occour more often -> SH+1, O-hat, etc. However, on some mobs this will do relatively little (HLNM's) so i usually stick with my TP gear.

When: can't think of when NOT to use lol. Maybe you will not want to use it when you solo and your HP is in the red, or when you don't have healers. Otherwise "I" use it all the time. Most HLNM's (also salvage bosses) will hit so strong, that the def-down made by counterstance will not make situation noticabely worse for you.

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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2009-11-25 15:20:28
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honestly most time when i tryed useing it , it gets me killed. i use my eva stuff alot more
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-11-26 03:18:36
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Caitsith.Heimdall said:
what is the proper use of this and what gear should u have to go with it and when?

When you have shadows up and you are tanking the mob.
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By Gilgamesh.Funsam 2009-11-26 03:40:12
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Best to use counterstance only when /nin. when /war or /dnc can get slaughtered too easy
I found it very effective against other mnk mobs, even in areas like dyna.
also having counter merits & counter+ gear can be useful while this active, but don't sacrifice haste gear for it cus you'll need that to keep shadows up fast.
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By Hades.Tabernus 2009-11-26 04:03:11
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Gilgamesh.Funsam said:
Best to use counterstance only when /nin.

I completely agree with this, when a Counter procs whilst you're recasting shadows it can really save you.

Also you can full-time Counterstance. Very useful indeed!
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By Fairy.Disc 2009-11-26 04:09:48
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Don't Counterstance if your enemy has a TP move that you know can and will one-shot you. Otherwise, it's great for everything else.

Mortal Revolution will not one shot you.
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By Valefor.Neokenesis 2009-11-26 05:15:57
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I find that I use it mostly in Salvage. With melee gaiters and full counter merits it procs quite often. In salvage i tend to take it off if I have a RNG add. SSR is one time this occurs alot ; ; other than that it makes easy of duoing/soloing alot of mobs. GL on melee gaiters if u have yet to get them :P
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By Unicorn.Frisk 2009-11-26 06:24:56
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purely situational
personally I tend to not use it against mobs that use multi-hit WS/high eva mobs
chances are it's going to do you more harm than good on those mobs if they're high lvl
mamool lurkers are a great example, high eva and vorpal blade
that's not to say you can't use it on them, but yea you get the idea

for salvage specifically, got a rdm with 5/5 phalanx merits? (which you should) full time that first floor, unless you're doing hammer in SSR
personally I dont use it on second floor SSR either, because fomor hit like a truck, i've seen MNKs get 1 shot with stance up on that floor due to MNK fomor doing WS on them with 0 shadows up

mortal rev can 1shot you too as stated above, if you're solo tanking that i'd personally stance rather than not, since 1 MNK = ***all TP moves
i've only ever been 1shot by that once, but yea you don't need to stance that boss if you're duo tanking
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By Massakre 2013-04-23 02:30:11
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Use Melee gaiters when initiating counterstance, you will receive a +10% bonus on Counterstance.

While your info is slightly outdated, this upgrade will help alot
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10731/mel-gaiters-2
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-23 02:31:25
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You're just doing in on purpose now :(
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By Bahamut.Itze 2013-04-23 02:36:24
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
You're just doing in on purpose now :(
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By Massakre 2013-04-23 02:37:55
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do you guys honestly just camp the ffxiah forums all day waiting for new posts to arrive?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-04-23 02:38:53
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Do you insist on necro bumping topics that are well over 3 years old?
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By Massakre 2013-04-23 02:44:33
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Do you insist on necro bumping topics that are well over 3 years old?

Yes
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-04-23 02:45:00
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Enjoy your short stay on FFXIAH.
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By Bahamut.Itze 2013-04-23 02:50:31
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The ***you're necroing isn't even news / worth while. There isn't a post count on here to post images or something.
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By Massakre 2013-04-23 02:54:55
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The ***you're necroing isn't even news / worth while. There isn't a post count on here to post images or something.

I have 12 posts, did you honestly think for one second i care about a post count?
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By Asura.Pentacat 2013-04-23 03:00:53
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Massakre said: »
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Use Melee gaiters when initiating counterstance, you will receive a +10% bonus on Counterstance.

While your info is slightly outdated, this upgrade will help alot
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10731/mel-gaiters-2

Not outdated for 2009.