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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 10:04:08
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I just don't get that mindset.

These are not people who subscribe to notions like "nuance" or "facts"

some of us think LGBT is one of TGIFridays competitors and wonder why there aren't more restaurants in our area....
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 10:06:03
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Cruz Missive said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just don't get that mindset.

These are not people who subscribe to notions like "nuance" or "facts"

some of us think LGBT is one of TGIFridays competitors and wonder why there aren't more restaurants in our area....

You know.

This just makes so much sense.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-24 10:14:45
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Ramyrez said: »
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Trump represents the "blow it all up" vote, and that's what they actually want.

I just don't get that mindset.

I get wanting to fix the current system.

But...they're not really alike in any way other than wanting the current system changed. There are similarities on the surface, but they're two very, very, very different people when it comes to how to go about these changes.
Just have whoever wins nominate the other VP. This way you can dismantle and fix it all at the same time. Though the odds of either one of them accomplishing and doing much of what they campaigned on to begin with are slim to none.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 10:40:08
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Ramyrez said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Cruz Missive said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just don't get that mindset.

These are not people who subscribe to notions like "nuance" or "facts"

some of us think LGBT is one of TGIFridays competitors and wonder why there aren't more restaurants in our area....

You know.

This just makes so much sense.

we're the tragic consequence of not staying globally competitive in education!....

when the smoke finally clears and alien anthropologists sift through the rubble they will wonder blankly why we were so resistant to year round school...
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 10:54:14
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Cruz Missive said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just don't get that mindset.

These are not people who subscribe to notions like "nuance" or "facts"

"What are ya, some kinda liberal academic elitist? I got an opinion and if you don't agree then you're a commie degenerate who needs to answer to the Coca Cola Company "
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-24 11:07:13
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The only place to go to fix anything.
Which is capable of fixing just about everything.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 11:09:33
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I miss William F Buckley...he was suave as ***...

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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 11:11:53
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The only place to go to fix anything.

You sir, are forgetting the wisdom of Homer Simpson.

Clearly the place you go to both create and fix all of life's problems.

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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 11:12:38
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
I miss William F Buckley...he was suave as ***...
Spoiler Alert! Click to view.

Looks like Rutger Hauer

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 11:16:20
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Both look like they could be the Night's King.

Though Buckley fluctuated a bit on his stances. Was nor a fan of the Bushes but a fan of Conservatism with a capital C nit that baby c stuff people eat up these days.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-24 11:17:35
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
The only place to go to fix anything.

You sir, are forgetting the wisdom of Homer Simpson.

Clearly the place you go to both create and fix all of life's problems.
I guess that depends on what you personaly do or do not see as current problems.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 11:20:20
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I guess that depends on what you personaly do or do not see as current problems.

One current problem is people who don't have a sense of humor talking about Trump and not seeing the irony.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-24 11:26:33
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
I guess that depends on what you personaly do or do not see as current problems.

One current problem is people who don't have a sense of humor talking about Trump and not seeing the irony.
He speaks about issues directly opposite of what Bernie talks about. Put them together and you have a more complete President.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 11:32:34
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Conservatism with a capital C

he was articulate which seems to be dying out...

"Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive."

I find it hard to appreciate the support of the bundy ranch tea party militia types...

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 11:36:58
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Obviously melee fans with Anti-BLM stance. Can't get behind that either.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 11:48:22
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
I find it hard to appreciate the support of the bundy ranch tea party militia types...

On a serious note they're great for laughs especially their notion that they're the ones that executed the Louisiana Purchase then had their land stolen from them by the government.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-05-24 11:49:17
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Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
I guess that depends on what you personaly do or do not see as current problems.

One current problem is people who don't have a sense of humor talking about Trump and not seeing the irony.
And some of us are in the sad situation where we make fun of him on a regular basis and will still probably end up having to vote for him.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 11:52:51
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Obviously melee fans with Anti-BLM stance. Can't get behind that either.

I was referring to the stupidity of the "give us back our land"
and "where is our sheriff?"
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 11:55:52
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And some of us are in the sad situation where we make fun of him on a regular basis and will still probably end up having to vote for him.

well it's either captain hairpiece or listen to shrillary clinton screeching like edgar alan poe's raven for four year.... /shudder
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 11:58:42
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Obviously melee fans with Anti-BLM stance. Can't get behind that either.

I was referring to the stupidity of the "give us back our land"
and "where is our sheriff?"

I know...

....but!

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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 12:13:20
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ramyrez said: »
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I guess that depends on what you personaly do or do not see as current problems.

One current problem is people who don't have a sense of humor talking about Trump and not seeing the irony.
And some of us are in the sad situation where we make fun of him on a regular basis and will still probably end up having to vote for him.

There's always a choice.

It's just is keeping Hillary out of office your hill to die on? Otherwise you could always write in a candidate you believe in.

I mean, it won't do much good, but you'll have done all you could.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-24 12:18:17
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I often see people complaining libertarians don't get enough votes. Um if you don't like either of the major parties candidates maybe vote for them? It might be the time they get enough to at least get the spotlight that sets a basis for the future if you care about that platform.

The only wasted vote is abstention.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-24 12:23:53
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What is Bernie's stance on ilegal immigration and national security?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-24 12:25:06
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often
I should correct myself. Often is an exageration, more like I've seen sometimes.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 12:25:59
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Siren.Akson said: »
What is Bernie's stance on ilegal immigration and national security?

I already linked you his official page with his stances on relevant topics. Quit youtubing more hack conspiracy videos about vaping and look it up yourself at this point.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 12:29:02
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I should correct myself. Often is an exageration, more like I've seen sometimes.

The problem is that most people who claim to be libertarian aren't. They're actually conservatives who don't want to be associated with the mainstream GOP for various reasons. They're the right wing folk the Kochs brainwashed into think they're libertarians, basically.

Real libertarians are actually kind of hard to come by.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-24 12:30:30
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An addendum: Chaos is really the only poster I can think of who might really qualify as a real libertarian. Pretty hands-off on all issues both fiscal and social.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-24 12:32:53
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Ramyrez said: »
Real libertarians are actually kind of hard to come by.
I c.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-05-24 12:34:30
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sad situation

I still don't understand the "putting all the coal miners out of work" speech..who got fired for that garbage?.

put them all out of work why? because...nobody likes hillbillies? from west virginia? or their union didn't kick enough cash back upstairs?

Dear Dumbasses you can use coal to make useful things like steel.... like steel girders...used to build bridges... and we could maybe rebuild our bridges and infrastructure...create even more jobs... actually do something that would positively effect the economy rather than donate money we don't have to reeducate the hilljacks? They're fricken dwarves! they dig holes. wtf else are they gunna do!?

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I could have crafted a better campaign message on a bar napkin with a maraschino cherry stem...
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-24 12:35:41
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Well.. You got to consider that global definitions and American definitions are not the same/universal. So as a European your prospective what is libertarian will more than likely not match up with Ramyrez's, albeit cynical, take on "libertarians"
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