[UK] Judge Orders Father To Take His Children To Church

Judge orders father to take his children to church The Telegraph (England)

skimmed a little bit of the actual article; sounds like this judge should be the one heading to prison'

It gets complicated when it involves divorce settlements. The judge upheld a condition of the divorce which just so happened to be that the father take them to church if he had them on xmas. Those were the terms of the divorce. Steve shouldn't have agreed to them if he didn't want to take them to church.
They are also her kids and if she wants to raise them catholic that is for her to say. Unless of course the USA UK is slowly becoming the USSR.

Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.


Also from the article:

Also it's England, not the USA.

Don't feel bad about the mistake, most people would automatically assume that, when stupid rulings happen, it's because of 'merica.

Most of the time they are right too....

anything to boost church population and retention it seems.

Confirmation bias informed by America's self-focused news media. We could start picking up news stories from Bangladesh, Georgia (the nation), and Zaire and find stories every bit as moronic as this. The notion that the US is uniquely stupid is a self-deprecating myth we've let spread like herpes.

So the Judge is forcing church down their throats? It's at this time I will quote words from Auron of FFX:

Auron: Short on believers?

This isn't a religion being forced down anyone's throat issue. This is a divorce and agreements issue.
The Judge didn't do anything but enforce a contract. simple.

What part of "not requested by either side" was misunderstood?

What part of the Judge's decision, where he discussed his own accord with Catholicism, was misunderstood?

This judge should be removed, and a contact retrial heard by a different judge.

All of it. Reading is hard, especially when you're leaping to conclusions to blindly defend something that vaguely sounds in-line with your beliefs.

Really blazed?
It's exactly that
Either side doesn't request it. Judge gives his own religious views, then forces them on this man, otherwise he can't see his kids.

Reading more into this with the another case, which was overturned by another judge that was 'aghast' with the original decision.
How has this guy not been disciplined before?
And how on earth has this decision not been overturned on appeal?
Baffling.
They scared of this guy?
He have friends in high places?

I skimmed through it rather poorly.Missed the part about it being imposed without request from either side.

In my defense, I am only on these forums past 1 am my time.

What I find most interesting is that they are being forced to attend a a catholic mass, which I believe aren't the norm in England, home of the Church of England, and given the long history of the Monarchy and Catholic church, going back to Henry VIII

Just because the Episcopal Church was established, doesn't mean that there weren't remaining Catholic supporters within England. :/

The Scots remained Catholic and their monarchs supported/funded "blasphemers" of the Church of England. Henry VIII's own daughter, Mary, tried to restore Catholicism to England during her reign. Ever heard of "Bloody Mary"?

Upon Elizabeth's ascension, the Church of England was restored, but there were assassination plots to have her usurped and place her cousin, Mary Stuart (Mary Queen of Scots), on the throne. Thus, she took measures against Mary.

Should we get into when the Stuart line finally reigned in England (Jamesesees and Charleseseses (Roman numerals I can't think of off the top of my head)). There were those who thought those Stuarts still practiced Catholicism generations later.

Do people really not know who Guy Fawkes is? Got to love the internet fads. :/

Please tell me you're not in the US, Canada or the UK. Please.

In cases of bs like this, can a different judge be requested somehow? I mean, come on..

For those wondering bout Fawkes, he tried to overthrow the British government in favor of a government run by Spain, which was at the time heavily influenced by the Catholic Church, which was EXTREMELY corrupt at that time period as well (See: Spanish Inquisition)

So when someone says "Oh look a Guy Fawke's mask! They're like V from V for Vendetta who want to overthrow the corrupted government."

No, the real Fawkes wanted to put in a corrupt government that he could have a nice fat seat in.

I'm not familiar with UK family law. Anyone around who is?

I do know that EU law could be brought into this if the family can't get judicial relief through the UK system, through article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

good overview of case law dealing with this article. P. 15 starts a relevant discussion, p. 17 (#33) deals with imposing religious practices on others who do not follow a certain religion.

Um, citation? I'm not arguing against it, I'd just like to read more on it.

Catholic are not Christian, their teachings of putting people (Marry, pope, preachers, etc) between themselves and Jesus, and bowing before the pope calling him the "holy father", among other things, is what makes them unchristian.

Be careful to not be deceived by those that teach of a different Christ not of the scriptures.

Catholicism is a part of Christianity, even if you don't think they stand for Christian values (don't know if you're religious yourself, just saying), by the same token the Westboro Baptist are Christian, Islamic extremists and still Islamic even though the majority of people in those religions which those 2 organisations weren't part of their religion.

They don't follow Christ Jesus. They don't follow His teachings. That literally makes them not a Christian church.

any religion that is of the belief that jeebus is the son of god is christian and they are all equally evil

I can't say I know Catholicism well enough to disagree with your point but the main criteria for being Christian is belief that Jesus was the son of God and the Messiah, which is true for Catholocism.

True they do not deny Jesus is the son of God, but neither did Satan or his demons either. Try reading the Bible and gaining some deeper understanding, and pray for that understanding that you may have faith from hearing his word.

so because they revere other fictional characters as well as geewhiz they aren't christian when the only criteria for being christian is the belief that jeebers is the son of god

that is some los angeles smog thick delusion