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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-11-26 16:22:18
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oh lawd

Hyperbole is a discussion's worst enemy. Are people getting these infographics directly off Stormfront?

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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Couldn't find whether the pic is real or not, but Skittles is slang for Coricidin, an OTC medication used in lean. He was not carrying such medication.

People have been using jolly ranchers and sprite and other forms to make different types of lean. I'm talking Nerds and grape soda, Sour straws and snapples, etc... using cough syrup.
None of those are active ingredient minus the cough syrup. You can flavor it with many things. The Skittles he had with him were candies and not a DXM-containing drug.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-26 16:24:31
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Carpet bomb Ferguson with some job applications. Gonna need a bunch of construction workers now.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-26 16:26:33
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volkom said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-26 16:27:50
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Carpet bomb Ferguson with some job applications. Gonna need a bunch of construction workers now.

We'll just bus 'em in from across the border, no need for any American workers here. They cost too much and they don't even have INS threats to keep 'em in line.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:27:53
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I wanted to retort to Chaos's comment with something witty, but he's said what can't be countered.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 16:29:25
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Carpet bomb Ferguson with some job applications. Gonna need a bunch of construction workers now.


Well Obama said that he'd lower the unemployment rate...
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-11-26 16:30:13
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.

for the atrocious grammer, if nothing else.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:31:30
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Just don't send Adam or Skip down there. They'd bust all the shoddy contractors.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 16:31:33
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Bloodrose said: »

There was no reason for Brown to go up to, and slug a sitting officer in the face - it's not something sane people do.
Which is a valid and pertinent point. This is abnormal behavior, given the described situation.

There are also other abnormalities in this case in particular, as well as other abnormalities in local police force actions in the area.

But there seems to be somewhat twisted logic in giving the survivor of a lethal encounter the benefit of the doubt.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 16:32:39
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Bloodrose said: »

There was no reason for Brown to go up to, and slug a sitting officer in the face - it's not something sane people do.
Which is a valid and pertinent point. This is abnormal behavior, given the described situation.

There are also other abnormalities in this case in particular, as well as other abnormalities in local police force actions in the area.

But there seems to be somewhat twisted logic in giving the survivor of a lethal encounter the benefit of the doubt.
Dead men tell no tales.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-11-26 16:32:57
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
But there seems to be somewhat twisted logic in giving the survivor of a lethal encounter the benefit of the doubt.

yet you trusted our history books...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-11-26 16:38:00
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
volkom said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
Not only that but Dillon Taylor was not shot by a black cop...

Wow Volk...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-26 16:39:32
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Everyone bitching about looting but nothing about the protesters who put their lives on the line to protect businesses. Why? Cause it doesn't fit your shitty 'blacks be evil, yo' agenda?

Oh and they were blax. No matter though, they don't count. Only the guys jacking sneakers and making a mess in your local convenience store. Gotta keep up those preconceptions, yo.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:39:59
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The entire incident should be under heavy scrutiny for sure.

Which is what forensic scientists and pathologists are for.

I mean, McSpadden came out publicly to say her son meant no one any harm, yet stealing, destroying property, and assaulting someone (all within the video surveillance) is intent to cause someone harm, for personal gain.

There was a severe lack of evidence to support claims of racism or the eyewitness reports, and actual evidence supported Wilson's claim - at least in part.

It is also why there is a court system, so the public doesn't hang a man for defending himself, without due process.

Regardless of the twisted logic, the media spin, or evidence, people have already made their decisions - some chose to seize a reason to loot, riot, and cause harm to innocent people and businesses - which happened to be friends and family to the community.

They, as a community, chose abnormal behavior, criminal behavior bordering on domestic terrorism, not to seek justice, but for blind vengeance.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 16:40:10
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
But there seems to be somewhat twisted logic in giving the survivor of a lethal encounter the benefit of the doubt.

yet you trusted our history books...
When a child? Yep. Now? Not anywhere to the same extent. Particularly after reading what is excluded from most textbooks, but can be found from primary documents from various sources.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:42:59
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Everyone bitching about looting but nothing about the protesters who put their lives on the line to protect businesses. Why? Cause it doesn't fit your shitty 'blacks be evil, yo' agenda?

Oh and they were blax. No matter though, they don't count. Only the guys jacking sneakers and making a mess in your local convenience store. Gotta keep up those preconceptions, yo.
"Everyone is evil but me, for I know what I would do if I were God"
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-26 16:44:40
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Bloodrose said: »
Regardless of the twisted logic, the media spin, or evidence, people have already made their decisions - some chose to seize a reason to loot, riot, and cause harm to innocent people and businesses - which happened to be friends and family to the community.

They, as a community, chose abnormal behavior, criminal behavior bordering on domestic terrorism, not to seek justice, but for blind vengeance.

And they should be arrested. And prosecuted under the law for causing an unlawful disturbance, theft and destruction of private property.

I don't see how they becomes a conflation of an entire community when most people turned out for peaceful protest. Peaceful protest no one gives a *** about because that doesn't sell well in the media.

Or is protest not something allowed in America anymore?
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By volkom 2014-11-26 16:45:48
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
Not only that but Dillon Taylor was not shot by a black cop...

Wow Volk...

/shrug was #2 on the image search


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A grand jury’s decision not to indict a white police officer who killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, announced this week, could spark renewed interest in a case in Utah involving a young, unarmed man killed by a police officer outside a 7-Eleven.

The case of 20-year-old Dillon Taylor had lingered in the public mind for months but did not rise to the level of the attention devoted to the case in Ferguson, which saw a confluence of racial tension, national media interest and public statements on the matter from President Obama and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

But Taylor’s name has surfaced on social media since the announcement of the decision in the Ferguson case. Described as white and Hispanic, Taylor was shot by a non-white officer Aug. 11. That stands in contrast to the case in Ferguson where police officer Darren Wilson, who is white, shot 18-year-old Michael Brown, who is black, two days earlier.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-11-26 16:45:48
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
When a child? Yep. Now? Not anywhere to the same extent

I'm just joking around, don't mind me.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 16:47:28
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Bloodrose said: »
Additionally, you have no experience in the medical profession, nor access to his actual medical records, as you are not his doctor, licensed as one, or even have the basic inkling that damage to the orbital socket will not be seen through the skin or flesh, unless there is a gaping wound there.

People can and have broken bones with little more than a bruise to show for it, until an X-ray is done.
I sure don't. But the facial bones are some of the densest and hardest in the body. Logic dictates they'd require a significant amount of force to do that much damage. One would also think the orbital socket being broken would cause some eye irritation at the very least.

Not to mention doctors notes from his examination after shooting Brown have no mention of any significant damage being done. But hey, what do doctors know?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-26 16:47:45
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volkom said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
Not only that but Dillon Taylor was not shot by a black cop...

Wow Volk...

/shrug was #2 on the image search
"You should have seen it, rampaging hordes of angry Mormons, rioting and looting and burning... Oh, wait... Never mind."

Best comment I saw about this story. And yes the cop was black or as the media puts it "non-white", but Taylor is described as a white Hispanic.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-26 16:50:12
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Bloodrose said: »
Just don't send Adam or Skip down there. They'd bust all the shoddy contractors.
Send Anthony down, he'll get them to work asap.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-11-26 16:50:23
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The main problem for me here is that not many of us seem all that concerned with finding out if the police officers in question are actually justified or not but rather seem to take a defensive stance and make this about white v. black... That in and of itself should be enough to show that there is still racial tension on both sides...

Instead of inquiring as to why an unarmed teenager is shot multiple times and killed we go to well why isn't this black cop that killed a white kid getting as much attention???? Or trying to convince others that black people kill more black people than white people do so that somehow disproves racism...

Idk... it all seems pretty backwards to me...
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By volkom 2014-11-26 16:50:47
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
volkom said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
Not only that but Dillon Taylor was not shot by a black cop...

Wow Volk...

/shrug was #2 on the image search
"You should have seen it, rampaging hordes of angry Mormons, rioting and looting and burning... Oh, wait... Never mind."

Best comment I saw about this story. And yes the cop was black or as the media puts it "non-white", but Taylor is described as a white Hispanic.

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A grand jury’s decision not to indict a white police officer who killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, announced this week, could spark renewed interest in a case in Utah involving a young, unarmed man killed by a police officer outside a 7-Eleven.

The case of 20-year-old Dillon Taylor had lingered in the public mind for months but did not rise to the level of the attention devoted to the case in Ferguson, which saw a confluence of racial tension, national media interest and public statements on the matter from President Obama and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

But Taylor’s name has surfaced on social media since the announcement of the decision in the Ferguson case. Described as white and Hispanic, Taylor was shot by a non-white officer Aug. 11. That stands in contrast to the case in Ferguson where police officer Darren Wilson, who is white, shot 18-year-old Michael Brown, who is black, two days earlier.



Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/ferguson-could-spark-renewed-interest-utah-case/#ixzz3KDYo7ITV
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 16:52:46
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Bloodrose said: »
The entire incident should be under heavy scrutiny for sure.

Which is what forensic scientists and pathologists are for.

I mean, McSpadden came out publicly to say her son meant no one any harm, yet stealing, destroying property, and assaulting someone (all within the video surveillance) is intent to cause someone harm, for personal gain.

There was a severe lack of evidence to support claims of racism or the eyewitness reports, and actual evidence supported Wilson's claim - at least in part.

It is also why there is a court system, so the public doesn't hang a man for defending himself, without due process.
And like any other kind of testimony or statement, parental testimony is worth zero without evidence to support it.

And the court system is (perhaps understandably) lax in prosecution of police officers, let alone in the severity of charges/punishment.

And the court systems are notably stringent with regards to proscecution of minorities.

It shouldn't come as a suprise that this disparity incites tensions and unrest.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 16:54:45
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Bloodrose said: »
The entire incident should be under heavy scrutiny for sure.

Which is what forensic scientists and pathologists are for.
They've been arguing over who is correct for the last three months. There has been no real consensus over what happened.

Bloodrose said: »
I mean, McSpadden came out publicly to say her son meant no one any harm, yet stealing, destroying property, and assaulting someone (all within the video surveillance) is intent to cause someone harm, for personal gain.
The video quality is complete ***and there have been questions regarding the time frame of browns death and the time of the robbery.

People were quick to jump on that picture Volk posted when it wasn't him as well.

Bloodrose said: »
There was a severe lack of evidence to support claims of racism or the eyewitness reports, and actual evidence supported Wilson's claim - at least in part.
The only part of Wilson's testimony that has been confirmed is that he was punched and a struggle happened at/in the car.

Which he initially claimed he'd been punched 10+ times, but that was backpedaled like hell to only 2 punches when his medical images were released.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:54:53
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Regardless of the twisted logic, the media spin, or evidence, people have already made their decisions - some chose to seize a reason to loot, riot, and cause harm to innocent people and businesses - which happened to be friends and family to the community.

They, as a community, chose abnormal behavior, criminal behavior bordering on domestic terrorism, not to seek justice, but for blind vengeance.

And they should be arrested. And prosecuted under the law for causing an unlawful disturbance, theft and destruction of private property.

I don't see how they becomes a conflation of an entire community when most people turned out for peaceful protest. Peaceful protest no one gives a *** about because that doesn't sell well in the media.

Or is protest not something allowed in America anymore?
"protest" has taken on a different meaning when spun by the media.

"they, as a community", is not indicative of everyone in it, but a substantial portion of it.

Anything "peaceful" is no longer a protest, it's hippie dippy *** no one cares about, because doing the right thing isn't newsworthy.

A whole city could cure cancer, and it would only make front page news for a day, and only in half of American's newspapers. Why? because it doesn't promote ratings, generate money, or incite fear. Quite the opposite, it instills hope and imagination, and we all know how scary a man with hope and a little imagination is.

Did I lump all of Ferguson in when I said "they, as a community"? No. Why? Because it was the community who wished for violence, hatred, and the intentional harm to innocents unrelated to the case that caused the damage.

The people who put their lives on the line to save businesses and people from being harmed, are heroes. Heroes are only ever sung in praise in fantasies. They didn't do it for the praise, as some would argue, they willingly put themselves in a situation that could have ended up taking their life, they would argue further, and many would expect the worst, and hope even stronger for it, because of the entertainment value it brings.

"Darren Wilson should have died, because he was the one who signed up to wear the badge to protect us from the people who want to cause chaos and anarchy" is all over the internet.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-26 16:56:09
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volkom said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
volkom said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

Get this KKK recruiting ***out of here.
Not only that but Dillon Taylor was not shot by a black cop...

Wow Volk...

/shrug was #2 on the image search
"You should have seen it, rampaging hordes of angry Mormons, rioting and looting and burning... Oh, wait... Never mind."

Best comment I saw about this story. And yes the cop was black or as the media puts it "non-white", but Taylor is described as a white Hispanic.

Quote:
A grand jury’s decision not to indict a white police officer who killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, announced this week, could spark renewed interest in a case in Utah involving a young, unarmed man killed by a police officer outside a 7-Eleven.

The case of 20-year-old Dillon Taylor had lingered in the public mind for months but did not rise to the level of the attention devoted to the case in Ferguson, which saw a confluence of racial tension, national media interest and public statements on the matter from President Obama and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

But Taylor’s name has surfaced on social media since the announcement of the decision in the Ferguson case. Described as white and Hispanic, Taylor was shot by a non-white officer Aug. 11. That stands in contrast to the case in Ferguson where police officer Darren Wilson, who is white, shot 18-year-old Michael Brown, who is black, two days earlier.



Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/ferguson-could-spark-renewed-interest-utah-case/#ixzz3KDYo7ITV
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
That site sucks, too slow.

But a brief search keeps coming up non-white. Can't get the body cam video to work either from this site:

http://wreg.com/2014/11/25/salt-lake-cop-cleared-in-shooting-of-unarmed-white-man/
By volkom 2014-11-26 16:57:33
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loads fine here
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 16:58:52
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

Or is protest not something allowed in America anymore?
Increasingly in many circumstances/situations, yes.
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