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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-21 18:17:22
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Depends what I'm looking at :d
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-09-21 18:19:12
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Oh you.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 18:20:04
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Nothing quite like science porn
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-21 18:21:29
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Clearly you don't understand the creationist theory, which does everything it can to try and debunk evolution.

And fails.

Evolution is the adaptation of changes necessary to continue propagation of life, or to advance.

Religions evolve over time (as previously argued by kooljack, in his attempt to look smart, then denounce evolution as nothing but a theory)

Societal norms evolve over time, based on facts and information regarding the social norms that hold the collective species back, in order to progress forward.

Modern day dogs are an evolutionary split from wolves, and other older canine species, though the vast majority are domesticated.

Cross-breeding animals, particularly beasts of burden, created many various beasts of burden, or livestock, for the desired sustainability to live and adapt to different environments.

There are different species and sub-species of fauna all over the world that have a single origination point in their history.

Some snakes are venomous, others are not.

Some animals developed limbs specifically for burrowing under the ground because it was cooler and darker, allowing them to thrive in a much more suitable environment.

The Creationist theory, is that all things were created by God (or an equivalent), rather than evolving over time and conditions, to adapt to their surroundings, and thrive.

As a biochemist, this should all be old hat, and already well known to you.

Again where did any of them book say we never change/evolve? Also if dog felt the need to evolve from wolf, why there are still wolf ?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 18:23:48
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Please read: Evolutionary split

As in, a divergence that creates a new species, without eradicating the old.

Both old and new species can live and thrive.

Evolutionary splits and divergent factors create new species or subspecies of animals and plant life, while the previous still maintains itself quite well.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Taberifx 2014-09-21 18:26:33
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i clicked this cuz it said SCH....whoops
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 18:30:39
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I'm not here to say you can't attribute evolution to whatever grand deity you choose to believe in, because you can, but as long as you believe in ANY form of evolution, be it natural selection, or by some Divine Inspiration, or other Intellectual Design beyond our current level of reasoning, it's still evolution, and not creationism.
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By daoming 2014-09-21 18:34:29
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Grievous-san...
 
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-21 18:45:31
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Kooljack said: »
I will hail you for being a good writer of argument and things of persuasion however; you forte is not religion
Oh, how I laughed.
I did too, but not for the same reason you did I'm sure.

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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Kooljack and Refreshtwo. I think they are soulmates.

Sorry Creationist just set me off

here i was thinking FFXIAH was safe but no there arrogance plague find me even here…..

I will end them…

i was not kidding i have a 200 page word doc of anti-Creationist info.

oh and Jetackuu is my soulmate.

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I love how he wipes isis's butts HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE for twisting the religion. He calls them fool's outright. hehe. this scholar rocks
There is no twisting, they're fighting their holy war as the book describes, there's no twisting to that.

Just like the bible calls for genocide. (inb4 our favorite christian apologist shows up).

love you Jetackuu I'm sad that I'm not on bahamut any more so we can't have are marriage /cry

Come back brodda.



fonewear said: »
I don't have a problem with religion or lack their of but I do have a problem with people making it their duty to defend it from criticism. It is quite arrogant to say not only is their no God but to be a jerk to those that believe in God.

Or vice versa.
Fone, did you just post something that wasn't totally outrageous?

Why do you have a problem with people defending their intellectualism? Oh wait, this is you we're talking about. Where's some Simpons pics?



Bismarck.Dubai said: »
Lol. Not a apologist, just stating facts that people forget to mention.

And as for the last quote you quoted me. Your justifying holy wars and murders of non-believers in your own mind and way. And that's your problem, don't base your understanding of something that you do not understand and push it as a fact.
You are an apologist, and it's really easy to understand, there was no facts that people forgot to mention, you just have a very twisted view of reality because you can't handle the truth.


Asura.Ccl said: »
I do not consider the 2001 war in Afghanistan a religious war. Iraq wasn't at war before the US wanted to detroy some weapon, so it doesn't come from religion.

I agree that Israel/Gaza is a current religious war.

The most horrible wars/mass murder I know about in history aren't religious, WWI, WWII, Stalin/Lenin; Mao Zedong.
That's where you'd be wrong on most of those accounts.



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Religions hands are just as bloody as capitalism, geopolitical shuffling in the wake of the fall of empires and local disagreements. That's because religion is patently human and anything human is riddled with more holes than Jets logic of late.

There's no holes in my logic son, but if you want to take 15 minutes to not troll, I'd be more than happy to explain it to you.

As for the rest: too lazy to read the last 6 pages.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-21 18:46:04
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Jetackuu I know you're here I see you on my PM list
Was doing some back reading, just got home from work a bit ago.
 
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-21 18:56:22
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You don't need to believe in god to not believe in evolution; and one of you claim dog came from wolf naturally and one say we created dog mixing wolf, I'm lost now!
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-21 18:57:40
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Kooljack said: »
hastag pics and pointing out m over b mistakes. and crying I can't use pwn correctly doesnt change anything. you're still egotistical minority who have no class on the true conversation.

You're perpetuating the notion that bender boy, (im talking about jet here, chaos dont get ur panties bunched up) thinks the majority of the world, (85%) is illogical.

To me, that sounds like Jet pwn'd you over several pages without even knowing it. I've only known you for the last 15 minutes and I find your level of debating disturbingly illogical.
/blush

damn sleep and work, I missed a lot of stupid.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-21 18:59:53
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Asura.Ccl said: »
How do you remake the skeleton that prove it ?


For the genetic, I studied protozoaire/metazoaire reptile evolution and stuff (I'm a biochemist), it doesn't disprove religion; wich say we're made from earth so it's normal everything on earth has similitude in how it come to maturity.
I'm no paleobiologist, but I'd imagine fossil reconstruction relies on inferring the missing structures from other more complete fossils and/or from modern animal physiology. Either way, fossils are not a necessary component of evolutionary theory. We're just kinda lucky they exist for us to mess with in the first place.

I don't know where you got the idea that any of this is meant to disprove religion. Like I said before, the two do not intersect.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-21 19:01:37
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Also if dog felt the need to evolve from wolf, why there are still wolf ?
Asura.Ccl said: »
I'm a biochemist
I hope you paid more attention to your chem classes than you did in your biology classes.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 19:03:48
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I didn't say that it happened naturally.

Evolution can be man-made, and used as a divergent factor in creating new species of animals (as in forcing our surroundings to adapt to our needs)
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 19:05:30
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
Also if dog felt the need to evolve from wolf, why there are still wolf ?
Asura.Ccl said: »
I'm a biochemist
I hope you paid more attention to your chem classes than you did in your biology classes.
Based on his descriptors of what he works with, it sounds more like he's a micro-biologist.

Though, any kind of bio-science related scientist should already know these facts.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-21 19:06:09
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So we made dog ? I agree with that, but I thought evolution made dog from wolf w/o us according to bloodrose(the carbon 14 dude that talked about it being the method to date 2m year old stuff)!

And yes the paleobiologist made me start to not believe in evolution outside of theorical aspect wich make sense, remaking a skull from a *** teeth doesn't make sense to me
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-21 19:07:17
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
How do you remake the skeleton that prove it ?


For the genetic, I studied protozoaire/metazoaire reptile evolution and stuff (I'm a biochemist), it doesn't disprove religion; wich say we're made from earth so it's normal everything on earth has similitude in how it come to maturity.
I'm no paleobiologist, but I'd imagine fossil reconstruction relies on inferring the missing structures from other more complete fossils and/or from modern animal physiology. Either way, fossils are not a necessary component of evolutionary theory. We're just kinda lucky they exist for us to mess with in the first place.

I don't know where you got the idea that any of this is meant to disprove religion. Like I said before, the two do not intersect.

starting at about 2:04 (yeah, I know Bill's a ***).

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or to get to the point: @4:30
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 19:12:01
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Domesticated wolves were used as a beast of burden, and were bred and cross-bred by man for the desired traits - I went over this a few posts prior to mentioning wolves specifically. Nothing in the post about wolves stated it happened naturally, or without human intervention.

Please learn to read.

Huskies and some of the closest species of dog related to wolves at this time, but are a divergent evolutionary split through generations of cross-breeding for a more docile, domesticated breed.
 
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-21 19:15:23
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eslim said: »
Asura.Refreshazure said: »
eslim said: »
everyone's a hypocrite, because perfection and innocence is only possible if you know everything.
um…. ok I think you're trying to make some sort of religious point but your are not really hostile so it just comes out looking confusing.
i don't really do adjectives or expectations, then i'd have to go off a standard :s
So would fonewear
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-21 19:16:50
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Jetackuu said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
How do you remake the skeleton that prove it ?


For the genetic, I studied protozoaire/metazoaire reptile evolution and stuff (I'm a biochemist), it doesn't disprove religion; wich say we're made from earth so it's normal everything on earth has similitude in how it come to maturity.
I'm no paleobiologist, but I'd imagine fossil reconstruction relies on inferring the missing structures from other more complete fossils and/or from modern animal physiology. Either way, fossils are not a necessary component of evolutionary theory. We're just kinda lucky they exist for us to mess with in the first place.

I don't know where you got the idea that any of this is meant to disprove religion. Like I said before, the two do not intersect.

starting at about 2:04 (yeah, I know Bill's a ***).

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or to get to the point: @4:30

3rd world country can't watch :(
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