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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-02 10:19:49
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Awww... King is white knighting for Nausi now. How cute.
lol if you think that as white knighting.
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By Ramyrez 2014-10-02 10:21:26
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Awww... King is white knighting for Nausi now. How cute.
lol if you think that as white knighting.

You can't white knite for a man. Don't be sexist, Flav.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-02 10:22:14
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Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Awww... King is white knighting for Nausi now. How cute.
lol if you think that as white knighting.

You can't white knite for a man. Don't be sexist, Flav.
You forgot racist too.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-10-02 10:22:50
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Ramyrez said: »
Your definition of "unhinged" must be different from mine. But that's just another one to add to the list, I guess.

It's been quite boring of late here. Few adventurers come to my Throne Room, I'm backed up on orders for marrows and cheaters keep resetting my somnial domain to pick on me repeatedly. I keep telling them that I'll bathe in their blood and hatred but they keep stunning me and using these annoying glowing pets to harass me. I'm thinking about filing a report with Diabolos Rev. Al about this ***.

Where I once ground skulls to dust and smashy smashed things, I'm only left with a deep sense of longing to be impossible to unlock in Campaign again. At least then I was special, not some ragdoll to 119 your cheap Dynamis toys off.

I'm not saying you guys like to beat up a black Galka but I'm saying you like to beat up a black Galka.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-02 10:29:26
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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I just think it's hilarious that people like Nausi talk about other's victim complex when all they do is sit here and *** about how women make it unfair for them or because they're a white male that makes them a target for every minority. All I do is hear you guys talk about how the wrld is against you and how unfair it is... talk about a victim complex...

Pointing out and discussing the negative impact this law has on men via the possibility of false rape accusations, is not the same thing as being victimized by it.

You're hearing what you want to bro.
It's not just this thread and you've done none of what you claim to have. You've vomited your feelings on to the thread and told us how you're afraid of going out to have a drink with a lady because you're pretty sure she's gonna regret it in the morning.

You've failed to show in the new law that someone would be able to use it on someone after only a few drinks, which it seems, is the major concern.

It's mostly just conjecture and more Nausi Nonsense.

Please point out explicitly where I've said I was "afraid" to go get a drink with a girl because I'm pretty sure she'll regret it in the morning.

You're reading things that simply aren't there. You're a joke..
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-10-02 10:30:19
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that's pretty funny though, in flavs defense.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2014-10-02 10:31:19
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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Sounds like my victim complex, according to Nausi.
Yours IS one of the biggest!
Even bigger than Obama's?

I was just a normal Galka set out on a multinational expedition where I thought things were fair but the man - the Humes - kept putting me down. When my girl died, I made a pact with Obama Odin to rid the world of the disgusting racism that had caused her death.

10 years I slumbered, gaining power and strength and growing 10 times the normal Galka size with pointy horns and purple tips.
10 years I slaved away at making my castle in the north. Do you even know how hard it was for a Galka to get a home loan?
10 years I community organized to get demons and imps to work together for the benefit of a more fair Vana'diel for all.
10 years I sat down with policymakers from the Theomillitary, Orcish Host and Quadav Shieldbearers to make my Confederacy happen. Have you ever talked to an Orc? They're *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE I swear.

My name is now the Shadow Lord (creative, I know) and I've declared war on the Allied Forces of America Altana. I may or may not drop alliances and umbral marrows.


That was one of the funniest things I have read today....
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-02 10:31:59
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Awww... King is white knighting for Nausi now. How cute.
lol if you think that as white knighting.

In Flavin's, world words mean whatever he wants them to, and you don't actually have to do something in order to do it.
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By Ramyrez 2014-10-02 10:33:33
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Please point out explicitly where I've said I was "afraid" to go get a drink with a girl because I'm pretty sure she'll regret it in the morning.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
As for my problem with the law it represents an increased risk for me when I go out have a few drinks and try and hook up with someone.

Implication: you're afraid of a false accusation. He's sprinkling in some additional inflammatory language, true, but the basics are there.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-02 10:39:40
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I just think it's hilarious that people like Nausi talk about other's victim complex when all they do is sit here and *** about how women make it unfair for them or because they're a white male that makes them a target for every minority. All I do is hear you guys talk about how the wrld is against you and how unfair it is... talk about a victim complex...

Pointing out and discussing the negative impact this law has on men via the possibility of false rape accusations, is not the same thing as being victimized by it.

You're hearing what you want to bro.
It's not just this thread and you've done none of what you claim to have. You've vomited your feelings on to the thread and told us how you're afraid of going out to have a drink with a lady because you're pretty sure she's gonna regret it in the morning.

You've failed to show in the new law that someone would be able to use it on someone after only a few drinks, which it seems, is the major concern.

It's mostly just conjecture and more Nausi Nonsense.

Please point out explicitly where I've said I was "afraid" to go get a drink with a girl because I'm pretty sure she'll regret it in the morning.

You're reading things that simply aren't there. You're a joke..
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
As for my problem with the law it represents an increased risk for me when I go out have a few drinks and try and hook up with someone.
Sounds like you're afraid to me. Why is there anything to worry about at all unless you're waiting for these girls to regret it in the morning?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-10-02 10:40:43
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Why is there anything to worry about at all unless you're waiting for these girls to regret it IMMEDIATELY?

ftfy
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-02 10:40:46
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Awww... King is white knighting for Nausi now. How cute.
lol if you think that as white knighting.

In Flavin's, world words mean whatever he wants them to, and you don't actually have to do something in order to do it.
This coming from you? You never disapoint Nausi!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-10-02 10:42:46
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ITT: I learned I'm not as relationship inept as I thought I was. Are dudes really that shook that they think every woman is out to destroy their name after a night in the sack? I mean sure, there are some but most chicks are like most dudes: Emotionally damaged, unstable, prone to outbursts of emotion, *** - i.e - normal.

Protip: Cunnilingus her well, she might return the favor.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-02 10:55:36
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Just because one concludes that an activity is risky, doesn't mean one is 'afraid' to engage in it. But frequently when people are afraid of something they become victimized by it. That's why you use the word "afraid", because it fits your agenda that I'm saturated by my own "victim" complex.

You're making a huge leap from me saying 'hey this law will lead to more false accusations and that's a concern' to 'I'm afraid to out and drink with a woman'. It's all inference on your end.

Reading comprehension.

Because of this law men now have to be sober enough to judge weather a woman is sober enough to officially give consent. Where as before we only needed to be sober enough to understand that no means no.
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By Ramyrez 2014-10-02 11:00:10
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Just because one concludes that an activity is risky, doesn't mean one is 'afraid' to engage in it. But frequently when people are afraid of something they become victimized by it. That's why you use the word "afraid", because it fits your agenda that I'm saturated by my own "victim" complex.

You're making a huge leap from me saying 'hey this law will lead to more false accusations and that's a concern' to 'I'm afraid to out and drink with a woman'. It's all inference on your end.

Reading comprehension.

Because of this law men now have to be sober enough to judge weather a woman is sober enough to officially give consent. Where as before we only needed to be sober enough to understand that no means no.

You mean to say...you need to have...more personal responsibility?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-02 11:03:23
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Why is it risky? Do you have this happen to you often enough that it would be a problem? That's not why I use the word afriad at all.

It's not a concern for me. Quite frankly, I bring all this up because I'm wondering why it's an issue at all for you. Wild conjecture on your part aside there is nothing to show that this will lead to more false accusations and the main reason given is that these girls will only have a couple drinks and still be able to do it. Nothing in the law or any of the posts has lent any credence to that fear. You're the one making a leap based on your own "concerns" with nothing to actually back up any of the claims you have made.

Other than on these forums I don't think I've ever met or even heard of a guy who has "a girl is going to regret sleeping with me and report me for rape" in their top 100 things to worry about. Makes me wonder why the guys here are so worried about it.
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By Ramyrez 2014-10-02 11:07:19
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Why is it risky? Do you have this happen to you often enough that it would be a problem? That's not why I use the word afriad at all.

It's not a concern for me. Quite frankly, I bring all this up because I'm wondering why it's an issue at all for you. Wild conjecture on your part aside there is nothing to show that this will lead to more false accusations and the main reason given is that these girls will only have a couple drinks and still be able to do it. Nothing in the law or any of the posts has lent any credence to that fear. You're the one making a leap based on your own "concerns" with nothing to actually back up any of the claims you have made.

Other than on these forums I don't think I've ever met or even heard of a guy who has "a girl is going to regret sleeping with me and report me for rape" in their top 100 things to worry about. Makes me wonder why the guys here are so worried about it.

Normal insults aside, I would actually conjecture it's because of anxiety issues. Smarter people -- which, whether we like admitting it or not most of us here are -- tend to be plagued by anxieties due to their being able to think things through to all of the possible outcomes.

Of course, those anxieties leading to being so concerned about these things that they interfere with your daily life, or that they make you afraid of laws intended to protect people, is generally considered to be of a pathological level of anxiety.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-10-02 11:20:33
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smoke some weed before your dates then, gawd.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-10-02 11:29:08
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Siren.Mosin said: »
smoke some weed before your dates then, gawd.

I show up to almost every first date highly caffeinated. If she's worth my time I'll start drinking beers but only after I see her taste. You have to almost try to bore me, I can talk about pretty much anything.

If you choose Bud Light though, I get up from the table, splash water in her face then leave.
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By Ramyrez 2014-10-02 11:34:10
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
smoke some weed before your dates then, gawd.

I show up to almost every first date highly caffeinated. If she's worth my time I'll start drinking beers but only after I see her taste. You have to almost try to bore me, I can talk about pretty much anything.

If you choose Bud Light though, I get up from the table, splash water in her face then leave.

All the hate for cheap beer. I mean, sure it tastes like piss if it gets warm at all, but as long as it's cold and you drink it fast...*sigh*

Or maybe I'm just being nostalgic about college again.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-02 11:54:38
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I think a lot of victim projection extends to the anti-socialism ideology. You can't make things fair because it's unfair. Objectivism in all its forms is the same selfish root, some are more equal than others, etc.

Personal lexicons are how people get around acknowledging the holes in their ideology.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-10-02 12:11:22
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
ITT: I learned I'm not as relationship inept as I thought I was. Are dudes really that shook that they think every woman is out to destroy their name after a night in the sack? I mean sure, there are some but most chicks are like most dudes: Emotionally damaged, unstable, prone to outbursts of emotion, *** - i.e - normal.

Protip: Cunnilingus her well, she might return the favor.

Depends if she regrets it in the morning or if anyone else knows about it. Im either case, would you get into a car that worked perfectly well 99% of the time but 1% it would explode and instantly kill you?

That is what it's like for college folks at a liberal university. Girl could be giving you all the signals, kissing on you, petting and what not. You both end up in the sack and the next morning she feels like a *** because she just met you. Or worse her friends find out and it negatively effects her social credit. Now we will ALWAYS blame the guy for when a girl cries. It's just human nature to always assume guys are responsible for everything, and thus we have created a legal presumption of guilt.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-10-02 12:24:16
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Odin.Jassik said: »
A lot of "feminists" seem to miss the point of equality, this is true. Men and women both like to tote the idea of equality, but what they're often toting is a superior status. Any real feminist or pro-equality mantra is true equality. Women should have access to the same payscale for the same job, that doesn't mean every woman should make as much as every male counterpart, it means that they should be paid based on their qualifications and work performance, regardless of gender. Women should be subject to the same punishments as men for the same crimes. Women should be held to the same standards of courtesy, etc. You can't have a conversation about gender specific issues if you aren't assuming true standards of equality.

You do realize that would result in a net loss oc privilege right. Especially if you take into account the sheer number of p*ssyp*sses they get. And they have been paid on the same scale for over 20 years. That figure that keeps being quoted was disproved long ago because it doesn't take hours worked into account. Men, on average, work more hours per year then women. Men also do more dangerous jobs, just search workplace deaths.

I have yet to hear a feminist argue for equal representation as coal miners, long haul truck drivers, garbage men or oil rig workers. They don't want equality they want to extend female privilege and give themselves bonuses.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2014-10-02 12:31:03
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
A lot of "feminists" seem to miss the point of equality, this is true. Men and women both like to tote the idea of equality, but what they're often toting is a superior status. Any real feminist or pro-equality mantra is true equality. Women should have access to the same payscale for the same job, that doesn't mean every woman should make as much as every male counterpart, it means that they should be paid based on their qualifications and work performance, regardless of gender. Women should be subject to the same punishments as men for the same crimes. Women should be held to the same standards of courtesy, etc. You can't have a conversation about gender specific issues if you aren't assuming true standards of equality.

You do realize that would result in a net loss oc privilege right. Especially if you take into account the sheer number of p*ssyp*sses they get. And they have been paid on the same scale for over 20 years. That figure that keeps being quoted was disproved long ago because it doesn't take hours worked into account. Men, on average, work more hours per year then women. Men also do more dangerous jobs, just search workplace deaths.

I have yet to hear a feminist argue for equal representation as coal miners, long haul truck drivers, garbage men or oil rig workers. They don't want equality they want to extend female privilege and give themselves bonuses.

There are few things a single gender can do that the other cannot.

If women want equality then it needs to be equal... i.e. they should be doing those jobs you stated without complaint.

That does not, however, mean that women who choose to enter said professions need the endless hazing and other nastiness that they can and do undergo.

It works both ways, guys.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2014-10-02 12:31:16
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This reminds me of a sexual consent form vid on youtube a couple years back. It was hilarious and I'm still wondering what's article 13 and article 20 in that consent form. I am still hoping it was 69 and threesome.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-02 12:34:12
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Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »
If women want equality then it needs to be equal...
Let me know when gender equality happens.

(hint: to have gender equality, it shouldn't prop one sex over another)

(also: inb4 "victim complex" excuse from the usual suspects)
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-10-02 12:47:45
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What if most women don't join those professions, because there's not as many nefarious, grizzly, unkempt hoards of strawman feminists roaming the streets looking for an unsuspecting male to prey on like a pack of hyenas as you would like to think?

Astounding!
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
What if most women don't join those professions, because there's not as many nefarious, grizzly, unkempt hoards of strawman feminists roaming the streets looking for an unsuspecting male to prey on like a pack of hyenas as you would like to think?

Astounding!
So let's ask the real question then.

What jobs are out there that women would like to work in but can't? And why they can't.
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By fonewear 2014-10-02 12:53:28
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
What if most women don't join those professions, because there's not as many nefarious, grizzly, unkempt hoards of strawman feminists roaming the streets looking for an unsuspecting male to prey on like a pack of hyenas as you would like to think?

Astounding!
So let's ask the real question then.

What jobs are out there that women would like to work in but can't? And why they can't.

Lumberjack !
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