Valefor.Endoq said: »
Where have you been Fone??
Quarantine.
Random Politics & Religion #00
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Random Politics & Religion #00
Quarantine. Valefor.Endoq said: » I'm glad we finally see eye to eye. The final solution to the "abortion problem."
Fetal transplant technology and artificial wombs for men. Let barren women adopt fetuses and bring them to term, let all those pro life males have the option to do the same. I have been saying for decades than if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament. (Not an original line on my part.)
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » Valefor.Endoq said: » I'm glad we finally see eye to eye. And it makes no sense. If their justification is true in one instance then it's true in all instance that parallel to ones well being. Actually it's even worse in abortionist case because there is no justification required and can be carried out on a whim without reason. Open your heart to Christ. His love prevents me from taking a life. What I speak is foolishness to the world. What I speak is life to those who hate evil and love God.
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I don't give a damn about your god and prophets, stop trying to force your faith on others it's just irritating. No one is forcing you to abandon yours, so show the same respect.
A mass of pluripotent cells is not a human. Even if we wanted to stray into the metaphisical discussion(but I don't want to cause it'd go on forever) there is no reason for which it would be any more meaningful. If I have a parasite in me, it's in my right to preserve myself over that other thing. The end.
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Valefor.Endoq said: » .... Open your heart to Christ. .... Valefor.Sehachan said: » I don't give a damn about your god and prophets, stop trying to force your faith on others it's just irritating. No one is forcing you to abandon yours, so show the same respect. A mass of pluripotent cells is not a human. Even if we wanted to stray into the metaphisical discussion(but I don't want to cause it'd go on forever) there is no reason for which it would be any more meaningful. If I have a parasite in me, it's in my right to preserve myself over that other thing. The end. Abortion was settled by the Supreme Court law it isn't a right granted by the Constitution. It's a legal matter. Garuda.Chanti said: » The final solution to the "abortion problem." Fetal transplant technology and artificial wombs for men. Let barren women adopt fetuses and bring them to term, let all those pro life males have the option to do the same. I have been saying for decades than if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament. (Not an original line on my part.)
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I would say abortion is more of a privilege than a right.
Even crazy liberal George Carlin agrees: 
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It's a matter of human rights. American constitution has little significance for me so not sure why you bring that up when responding to me specifically.
Because you don't understand the difference between a privilege and a right. It isn't personal just a clarification.
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Humans don't have rights, globally. As Carlin said, they have privileges.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Humans don't have rights, globally. As Carlin said, they have privileges. That is my point. We are only allowed to do what the government tells us we can do.
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Anyways there are more pressing matter than abortions. Like the global climate change meetings in Paris.
fonewear said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Humans don't have rights, globally. As Carlin said, they have privileges. That is my point. We are only allowed to do what the government tells us we can do. And if you live in a more repressive state, you have less privileges. Just take a look at Saudi Arabia. Women aren't even allowed to drive.
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fonewear said: » Anyways there are more pressing matter than abortions. Like the global climate change meetings in Paris.
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Don't worry about the global warming Obama is out there fighting it...and this time... it's personal !
President Obama urged his fellow world leaders Monday to reach a landmark deal to curb global warming before it dooms the planet. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/30/climate-talks-kick-off-france/76551062/ "I come here personally as the leader of the world’s biggest economy and second-biggest emitter to say that America not only acknowledges its role in climate change but embraces doing something about it," Obama said. You could say Obama is the new captain planet we've been hoping for !
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People who laugh at the cop21 are part of the problem.
Those guys who gathered there in Paris actually can make a difference. It's not one of those "ah well what can we even do about it". World leaders have in their hands the ability to set things on the right path. Valefor.Sehachan said: » I don't give a damn about your god and prophets, stop trying to force your faith on others it's just irritating. No one is forcing you to abandon yours, so show the same respect. A mass of pluripotent cells is not a human. Even if we wanted to stray into the metaphisical discussion(but I don't want to cause it'd go on forever) there is no reason for which it would be any more meaningful. If I have a parasite in me, it's in my right to preserve myself over that other thing. The end. It's impossible for me to force faith on another person. Faith is from within, from God. And for the record, I don't know what metaphysical is. It's not part of my faith.
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I'm sure world leaders are doing the best they can but global warming is harder to kill than ISIS.
Valefor.Endoq said: » It's not part of my faith I'd rather wait for another 15 years when the temperature starts dropping globally all on its own. Then we can talk about how humans affect climate change.
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You can't wait that long, it's causing irreperable damage.
Also, didn't we have a specific thread(or 2 or 3)for this? |
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