Bill Nye Debates Creationist Ken Ham Live 2/4/2014

But the thing is, as much as it's a "belief" in science, it's a belief in what we as humans can perceive as "facts". There are simply some constants that are just that. Constants. Observable constants.

I'm not looking to disprove any deity. I am, in fact, wanting proof of one. But it cannot be provided. Spin that however you like, but even if you say science's discoveries are not "fact", they're still concrete. You can see the results of science.

Still waiting on the verification on the god thing.

I'd love to live in this world where we you guys seem to think we don't actually know anything. I imagine it'd be pretty boring and would involve lots of tree-climbing and poo-flinging.

And to answer that question earlier, I don't give two *** about what anyone believes. It is, however, a problem when beliefs try to get shoehorned into science and passed off as legitimate theories.

You know the day I stepped off the graduation stage at college I shared with my friends the realization that while I had spend over a 1/4 of my life at this point studying and learning things, that I really didn't know much when I compared what I know to what there is to know.

Only idiots think they know everything. Smart people realize how little they really know.

Only idiots think they know everything. Smart people realize how little they really know.

How insightful. The computer you typed that delicious kernel of wisdom on was created based on theories and principles we know to be true.

I'd really prefer if they canned the FPS aspect, and went back to the 2d issometric view.

It's remarkable how often people seem to forget that those scientific heretics are responsible for so much of the modern world. I still expect to hear a creationist claim that Jesus gave us the microprocessor.

I like how people keep throwing God around like even if we find a God at the center of the universe it'll be YOUR God - the narrowly defined Judeo-Christian God of the Bible. So in addition to saying you know God exists you also attach the second assertion that it is this one specific God and that all other gods are false. And atheists are arrogant? lolok.

There are three steps here:
-God exists.
-God exists and it's my God.
-All other Gods are false.

Any sufficiently advanced alien lifeforms in the universe could easily be gods from our perspective just like the people of the Americas thought some white guys in iron helmets packing flintlocks were gods... until they proceeded to bring ruination upon their civilization.

The theist continuously pushes the idea of God yet has locked themselves into the idea that the creator must be yours. Newsflash, it doesn't. Your guess is as good as Odin, Mithras, Quetzalcotl, Izanami, Shiva, Osiris etc etc. Perhaps God is something that we haven't even found yet but you can't make that choice because you've locked in your answer with faith.

The only reason you choose to believe what you do is because of your family, time period of birth, anglo domination and events that have occurred over centuries before you took your first dump in a diaper. You have faith that Jesus is behind this and little else if you're honest.

Honestly, I see Jesus as a lesson about oppressive regimes and what happens when you speak out against what the masses choose to believe. He doesn't need to be God incarnate, have performed any miracles or made promises to return in order to pull a moral from the story.

This is one thing I will stress repeatedly.

Jesus may have not had a single bit of divine nature about him. But his lessons -- or, at least, those attributed to him -- are still very valid. Not being shitty to one another is an astoundingly good idea.

Still waiting on some of the so-called "Christians" to come through on them, though.

Please note I said "some". I know several very good Christians who are very good people and who also don't try to convert every single person on the planet or push it on others. They're just good people. And that's really what matters within our current existance anyhow.