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By Odin.Jassik 2013-05-25 09:55:44
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Its not as much that only 99's or only afterglow's should get a boost, but the pile of people with 85's and not even the 90 trial active complaining about this is absurd. What about all the people that 99'd their emps who didn't cry that much when delve weapons came out and SE hadn't said they would update them?
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By Voren 2013-05-25 10:11:40
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Am I the only one with a single 85 empy that's not pitching an unholy ***? Seriously, wtf. So, I should be furious, ok then...

I'd love to 99 my Almace. Hell, at this point I'd love to 90 the damned thing, but as it stands I have been unlucky as hell on soloing apademak. My LS is focusing on other items right now which I understand and do not *** about. Their focus is on getting some relics done, I fully support this.

So I'm looking at having to solo brew apademak because I'm not confident enough to solo him without a brew. I've estimated I may have a 90 in about 3 months if drop rates suck and I don't get time extensions during cruor farming.

Please, for the love of *** stop bitching about 99onry dmg increase, you're making the rest of us look like ***.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-05-25 10:16:15
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Delve wep will help with that non brew solo brah
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-05-25 10:20:31
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Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage

I bought 1500 plates within a week less than two weeks ago. There are still daily shouts on Lakshmi. If you are having trouble getting plates, raise the market price. Ours is still 70-80k/plate and shouts still happen.
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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2013-05-25 10:25:27
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage

I bought 1500 plates within a week less than two weeks ago. There are still daily shouts on Lakshmi. If you are having trouble getting plates, raise the market price. Ours is still 70-80k/plate and shouts still happen.

Plates are still available pretty decently on Ragnarok, too... It's Cinders that are omgwtf @ ~2.25M each.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-05-25 10:28:49
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I shall accept the upgrades with calm equilibrium...
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By Angeljcar 2013-05-25 10:40:35
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Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
Tragic 90 and 95s aren't getting any damage boost and anyone with a 90 95 or 85 for that matter should be furious its gonna be useless

An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage


so if all these people don't think its fair for 90s 95s to get a little damage boost
(not as high as there 99 counterpart but a relevant boost)

then why not make it only Afterglows get the Boost

to make it truly fair
(they are the only ones truly finished)

(oh and Instruments and Shields never got touched in any of this mess)

Aegis Ochain Daurdabla Gjallarhorn are all still BIS
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-05-25 10:41:16
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Ragnarok.Azryel said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage

I bought 1500 plates within a week less than two weeks ago. There are still daily shouts on Lakshmi. If you are having trouble getting plates, raise the market price. Ours is still 70-80k/plate and shouts still happen.

Plates are still available pretty decently on Ragnarok, too... It's Cinders that are omgwtf @ ~2.25M each.

I agree- plate supply isn't especially terrible (yet), but the cinder supply is (and really, always has been) incredibly awful. You shouldn't have to make mules on other servers just to get an item you need.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-25 10:46:22
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this morning:
step 1. wake up
step 2. go to computer
step 3. see another eye roller thread
step 4. facepalm till nose breaks
step 5. Q.Q
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-05-25 10:52:53
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WHUNS SE GOING TO UPDATE RANGER NECKLACE!?!
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-05-25 11:00:31
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NiPPlE SaLADS!
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By Siren.Barber 2013-05-25 11:00:49
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Buying currency for relic over the past two days I bet I've seen close to 7-800 hmp in bazaars without even using GW to try and hunt them down. All of them for 70 or less. Heck 200 or so were for 50k so I bought and resold at 70.

During that time I only saw 1 cinder and 2 dross. But again that was without using this site or GW to actively hunt them. It's still harder to raise the gil than it is to find the items. It's not yet in a state where alexs were a couple years ago where literally only one person per server could do a mythic due to supply issues.
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-05-25 11:06:40
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Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
The name alone says it all.
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By Voren 2013-05-25 11:09:21
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Delve wep will help with that non brew solo brah

Seen a video of Draylo soloing apademak without a delve weapon, so I know it can be done, but getting a delve weapon isn't going to automatically make me more confident on my job. Getting something to help stuns would help a lot more tbh.
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By Phoenix.Terasan 2013-05-25 11:27:51
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Oh look. This thread again.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-05-25 11:52:59
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I like this idea actually. It's stupid enough that I don't have to understand how the game has changed in the last two years to get a laugh. Thanks OP!
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-05-25 11:59:12
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Dear people complaining about 95-99 jump,
There is a long description of how despite the fact it has a level requirement of 99 that it is intended to be used and be the weapon choice of level 110+ content. Therefore like delve weapons that are farmed/bought off more difficult content it since has more powerful stats. I would assume they will be doing the upgrades for these weapons the same. As the upgrades for empyrean weapons left the easy abyssea grindfest and went to harder (but still easy) VW. Also I would assume the people wielding these "epeen gears" will have very little use for the lower level content. Just as I rarely see level 99 apoc drks farming up earth crystals in gustaberg I wouldn't except to see these often running in abyssea or even NNI.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-25 12:17:33
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Shiva.Tedril said: »
Dear people complaining about 95-99 jump,
There is a long description of how despite the fact it has a level requirement of 99 that it is intended to be used and be the weapon choice of level 110+ content. Therefore like delve weapons that are farmed/bought off more difficult content it since has more powerful stats. I would assume they will be doing the upgrades for these weapons the same. As the upgrades for empyrean weapons left the easy abyssea grindfest and went to harder (but still easy) VW. Also I would assume the people wielding these "epeen gears" will have very little use for the lower level content. Just as I rarely see level 99 apoc drks farming up earth crystals in gustaberg I wouldn't except to see these often running in abyssea or even NNI.
Sincerely,
your friendly neighborhood batman
You cant farm crystals from too weak mobs. Also, you wont see l3v3l 99 REM people in NNI because they did the event when it came out and are 15/15 with no reason to go back. That is completely irrelevant to comparing an obvious game design to "complaining cause my 'inferior weapon' is not getting a buff cause it shouldnt to people who only care about getting DMG+ on the 99"

And on that note: it isnt "complaining" when one is concerned about the actual game design behind the damage ratings of the weapons. However, it is "complaining" when a developers forum is blown up because players are unhappy with the release of new,better weaponry than their own. Just think about that for a second.
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By Voren 2013-05-25 12:24:58
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Calculate the time people have spent bitching about this and calculate the time it would take to farm plasm and buy a weapon. I bet it's almost even.
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By Siren.Piccollo 2013-05-25 12:29:14
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Its not as much that only 99's or only afterglow's should get a boost, but the pile of people with 85's and not even the 90 trial active complaining about this is absurd. What about all the people that 99'd their emps who didn't cry that much when delve weapons came out and SE hadn't said they would update them?

dont talk nonesense the huge amount of crying goin on in the other REM thread is mostly the same 30 people complaining about 99 REM and that thread is over 100 pages and growing,

the reality is they need to make REM upgrade from 85-99 and make all the items used to upgrade easier to obtain, Ffxi to me seems much more fun to me atm but its a huge shame in my oppinion that REM -99 are gonna be just overlooked so much.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-25 12:35:12
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There should be an Impotent Rage sub-forum*, and this thread could be its first sticky.

(*Maybe redundant because of the P&R forum)
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By Voren 2013-05-25 12:43:18
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Siren.Piccollo said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Its not as much that only 99's or only afterglow's should get a boost, but the pile of people with 85's and not even the 90 trial active complaining about this is absurd. What about all the people that 99'd their emps who didn't cry that much when delve weapons came out and SE hadn't said they would update them?

dont talk nonesense the huge amount of crying goin on in the other REM thread is mostly the same 30 people complaining about 99 REM and that thread is over 100 pages and growing,

the reality is they need to make REM upgrade from 85-99 and make all the items used to upgrade easier to obtain, Ffxi to me seems much more fun to me atm but its a huge shame in my oppinion that REM -99 are gonna be just overlooked so much.

Only set back I see is that if SE makes REM items easier to obtain the ones that got theirs to 99 the "old fashioned way" would then start pitching a ***. Not all maybe, there'd be a few that would not give a single flyingfuck about it, but there'd be 30+ that would omgwtfihateuallfuckudie and /wrist over it.
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By Cerberus.Cruxus 2013-05-25 12:56:22
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Voren said: »
Siren.Piccollo said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Its not as much that only 99's or only afterglow's should get a boost, but the pile of people with 85's and not even the 90 trial active complaining about this is absurd. What about all the people that 99'd their emps who didn't cry that much when delve weapons came out and SE hadn't said they would update them?
dont talk nonesense the huge amount of crying goin on in the other REM thread is mostly the same 30 people complaining about 99 REM and that thread is over 100 pages and growing, the reality is they need to make REM upgrade from 85-99 and make all the items used to upgrade easier to obtain, Ffxi to me seems much more fun to me atm but its a huge shame in my oppinion that REM -99 are gonna be just overlooked so much.
Only set back I see is that if SE makes REM items easier to obtain the ones that got theirs to 99 the "old fashioned way" would then start pitching a ***. Not all maybe, there'd be a few that would not give a single flyingfuck about it, but there'd be 30+ that would omgwtfihateuallfuckudie and /wrist over it.

This is what people did when they nerfed the magian trials for upping the r/m's per ws use/kill basis...won't deter them if they decide to do it.
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By Asura.Echandra 2013-05-25 13:08:27
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I got scared for a second today. I was terrified at the thought that I would have to get up and start breakfast without a healthy dose of R/E/M sub- 99 rage.

Gonna have to say :
1. I wish dross and heavy metal plates were as cheap as they are now compared to when I made my Ukon and my wife's duracell harp thing.
2. Riftcinder can blow me. Go down in price already!
3. Even now, I still have very little issues making a VW group, except for finding a blu that actually has spells, but w/e! If anything, I enjoy uptala, bizmarky, and morta b/c I can just afk on paladin. All of those give you first crack at up to 17 other people for at least 6 fights (you do have 6 stones at this point...right?).
4. On point three regardless of whatever you endeavor to do in this cursed game, it's going to take time, money, and racing around to beat others to people who you see bazaaring cheap goodies via ffxiah(thank you!).
5. Afterglow derp weapon not finished either derp, go finish derp derp was all I heard. Whoever made the afterglow concept probably no longer works for SE, and the rest of the team probably doesn't even know what an afterglow is. SE has even said for those that have COMPLETED their weapon, this is something extra for them to aspire for. The word you want to take from that all is COMPLETED, so raging for people to go finish this first is just silly

If you think those who have cleared the 95/99 stages just stood in port jeuno and all the things just showed up and we upgraded, then I guess keep standing in Port Jeuno and wait for the miracle.


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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-05-25 13:33:30
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage

I bought 1500 plates within a week less than two weeks ago. There are still daily shouts on Lakshmi. If you are having trouble getting plates, raise the market price. Ours is still 70-80k/plate and shouts still happen.

Heh, doesn't happen on our server. Only got about 200-300+ for sale according to Guildwork.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-05-25 13:37:06
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Siren.Piccollo said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Its not as much that only 99's or only afterglow's should get a boost, but the pile of people with 85's and not even the 90 trial active complaining about this is absurd. What about all the people that 99'd their emps who didn't cry that much when delve weapons came out and SE hadn't said they would update them?
dont talk nonesense the huge amount of crying goin on in the other REM thread is mostly the same 30 people complaining about 99 REM and that thread is over 100 pages and growing, the reality is they need to make REM upgrade from 85-99 and make all the items used to upgrade easier to obtain, Ffxi to me seems much more fun to me atm but its a huge shame in my oppinion that REM -99 are gonna be just overlooked so much.


I think anyone who has completed the 99 trials for thier respective weapon has the right to be a little upset, my point was there are far more 99 RME's than the number of people crying on forums or in Jeuno. Anyone who hasn't completed a 99 or even a 90 Empyrean trial has no right to gloat about thier delve weapon or run thier mouth to 99 RME owners, especially unprovoked.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-05-25 15:51:04
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Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
Tragic 90 and 95s aren't getting any damage boost and anyone with a 90 95 or 85 for that matter should be furious its gonna be useless

An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage


so if all these people don't think its fair for 90s 95s to get a little damage boost
(not as high as there 99 counterpart but a relevant boost)

then why not make it only Afterglows get the Boost

to make it truly fair
(they are the only ones truly finished)

(oh and Instruments and Shields never got touched in any of this mess)

Aegis Ochain Daurdabla Gjallarhorn are all still BIS
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-25 16:08:16
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Odin.Kingdinguhling said: »
Tragic 90 and 95s aren't getting any damage boost and anyone with a 90 95 or 85 for that matter should be furious its gonna be useless

An Empyrean 95 trial is nearly impossible trial at this point:

1500 plates

no Voidwatch Uptala or Qilin Shouts

HMP market is starved

Prices going through the roof

Cant be low manned Like Dynamis or Salvage


so if all these people don't think its fair for 90s 95s to get a little damage boost
(not as high as there 99 counterpart but a relevant boost)

then why not make it only Afterglows get the Boost

to make it truly fair
(they are the only ones truly finished)

(oh and Instruments and Shields never got touched in any of this mess)

Aegis Ochain Daurdabla Gjallarhorn are all still BIS
Na, bro.

By the way, according to Matsui's given example, Emps base damage is going to be at the bottom of the three prestige weapons, might wanna start on a Mythic or Relic.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-05-25 16:11:58
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Enuyasha said: »
Shiva.Tedril said: »
Dear people complaining about 95-99 jump,
There is a long description of how despite the fact it has a level requirement of 99 that it is intended to be used and be the weapon choice of level 110+ content. Therefore like delve weapons that are farmed/bought off more difficult content it since has more powerful stats. I would assume they will be doing the upgrades for these weapons the same. As the upgrades for empyrean weapons left the easy abyssea grindfest and went to harder (but still easy) VW. Also I would assume the people wielding these "epeen gears" will have very little use for the lower level content. Just as I rarely see level 99 apoc drks farming up earth crystals in gustaberg I wouldn't except to see these often running in abyssea or even NNI.
Sincerely,
your friendly neighborhood batman
You cant farm crystals from too weak mobs. Also, you wont see l3v3l 99 REM people in NNI because they did the event when it came out and are 15/15 with no reason to go back. That is completely irrelevant to comparing an obvious game design to "complaining cause my 'inferior weapon' is not getting a buff cause it shouldnt to people who only care about getting DMG+ on the 99"

And on that note: it isnt "complaining" when one is concerned about the actual game design behind the damage ratings of the weapons. However, it is "complaining" when a developers forum is blown up because players are unhappy with the release of new,better weaponry than their own. Just think about that for a second.
Sigh... And point missed... Plus your poor reading skills are awesome. The whole point is the fact they are past that content.
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By Shiva.Gib 2013-05-25 17:28:49
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Basically all I'm seeing is "Waaa I want the most powerful weapons, but I don't want to put forth time, effort and money. So people that weren't content with being 'Passable' should suffer too, Waaa"

the only thing stopping you from getting a 99 Empy is YOU. so basically nut up, or move on.

if you want instant gratification you're playing the wrong game
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